Some Excellent Training done here......(not really)

Twelve Iowa football players are recovering after being admitted to University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics Monday evening with a kidney condition, the Cedar Rapids Gazette reports. The Gazette reports the Iowa players have Rhabdomyolysis, which is a breakdown of muscle fibers that releases myoglobin into the bloodstream. This can affect the kidneys and be can be caused by excessive exercise. This corresponds with a posting on the Facebook page by Iowa linebacker Jim Poggi, who wrote he was …


We had the same problem last week…

“They are nothing if not concerned for the health of the players,” Vandervelde said. “That’s always the first priority, health and development. I mean workouts are never used to punish. It’s always about improvement, and workouts are always well within the capabilities of the athletes asked to perform them.”

haha - that’s easy to say…

Some of the “comments” are pretty damning…

what do you mean

definately some interesting/funny comments with an occasional logical comment

can creatine do that to you? I know when i took it it dehydrated me quite a bit if i wasn’t careful. Mix that with intense conditioning and workouts + not enough water…

We didn’t have 12, only 1.

Any ideas what they were doing???

I’d have more questions on that than story than the forum rules (rightly) permit

That’s an extreme physiological reaction

What if it was only one, would it still be an issue with you?

Was it all due to overtraining. Were they doing individual workouts or was this from the team

¨Creatine and excessive protein. Very bad for them ol’ kidneys. Whatever it takes!!!˝

One of the best :smiley:

I’m not surprised. It’s difficult to classify Strength and Conditioning as part of sport science when people are out there doing stuff like this. I’m still trying to understand how 100 reps of squats (with 240lbs from what I understand from other reports) in under 17 minutes has to do with football (or any other sport for that matter).

Notes from Iowa news conference

January, 26, 2011 Jan 266:24PM

By Adam Rittenberg

Iowa held a news conference earlier Wednesday afternoon where we got a few smidgens of information about the Hawkeyes football players who remain hospitalized. The number of hospitalized players has increased to 13, and it’s now confirmed they are recovering from rhabdomyolysis, a muscle syndrome that can be caused by excessive exercise and can, in serious cases, cause kidney damage.

Iowa director of football operations Paul Federici addressed the media along with Dr. John Stokes, a kidney specialist at University Hospitals. Biff Poggi, whose son Jim, an Iowa freshman linebacker, is one of the hospitalized players, also appeared at the news conference and provided by far the most information about what has taken place during the last six days.

Some notes:

The players are responding well to treatment, although their release from the hospital remains unknown. Officials can’t confirm the cause of the rhabdomyolysis, although they suspect it stems from a series of intense workouts.

Federici said all Iowa players went through the workouts, which are standard for this time of year but described as “strenuous” and “ambitious.” Thursday marked the start of winter workouts, and according to Biff Poggi, the players did an intense series of squats where a certain number of reps needed to be done in a specific time period. Jim Poggi reportedly did 100 squats in 17 minutes.

Federici on the regimen: “It is strenuous, it’s ambitious, the student-athletes know that. … It has been part of our workout at this time of the year in the past. [The wave of health problems] is just an anomaly. We haven’t seen this type of response.”

Biff Poggi: “It was a hard workout and [Jim] called afterward and said it was a hard workout. He was very, very sore. Thursday was general fatigue. Thursday evening he started to have severe quad pain.”

Iowa players went through an upper-body workout Friday before getting the weekend off, although Biff Poggi said Jim’s muscle soreness actually got worse. Players went though another lower-body workout Monday, after which Jim Poggi had symptoms (discolored urine) consistent with rhabdomyolysis.

Biff Poggi said Jim’s treatment has consisted of intravenous fluids, frequent blood work to check kidney function and bed rest. No dialysis has taken place. The officials couldn’t comment on the treatment for the other players because of privacy laws.

The use of drugs and food supplements can contribute to rhabdomyolysis, although it’s too soon to tell if that happened in the cases of these players. Hydration also is a factor, though Federici said fluids are readily available during these workouts.

Players went through the workouts in groups of 15-35 and all five Iowa strength coaches were present, Federici said. Muscle fatigue and soreness is typical after these workouts but the training staff began referring players to the hospital after more serious symptoms emerged.

Federici said head coach Kirk Ferentz is returning to Iowa City on Wednesday afternoon from a recruiting trip. Biff Poggi said he has been in touch with both Ferentz and linebackers coach Darrell Wilson multiple times in the past few days.

Federici: “Changes will be considered, I’m sure. We’re always looking for a better way to do things.”

Stokes said it’s typical for patients with rhabdomyolysis to be hospitalized for more than 48 hours. The good news is these are typically one-time occurrences. “What doctors are trying to be sure of is muscle injury improving and kidney function not getting worse,” he said.

Clearly, there are many more questions that remain. This certainly wasn’t Iowa’s finest hour from a p.r. standpoint, and if not for Poggi’s presence, the news conference would have been pointless. The big question among many folks is why Ferentz and athletic director Gary Barta weren’t present Wednesday? Schools typically want to get their most recognizable figures in front of the media.

I get that, but my bigger issue is why none of the strength coaches appeared Wednesday. They were present at these workouts and they could have shed more light on what actually happened, the workout regimens, what they ask from the players, whether there is any precedent for these medical problems, etc.

Thirteen players in the hospital is a big deal, and Iowa needs to treat it that way in its dealings with the media and the public.

Stay tuned for more as the story develops.

Of course there are alot of specualtion, but from what I heard one of the players girlfriend’s posted something on how her boyfriend and his teamates would leave the gym completely trasheda nd not being able to walk from doing so many squats. Who knows If shes telling the truth but it is too easy to just blame “other” reasons like every one wants to do.

In my opinion it was definately from misguided training

I just read your post Number 2, so I gues that confirms this girl’s online post

This is very surprising. The S&C is a good guy with a very conservative background, unless he has changed a bit in recent years.

He was on the group who banned backsquats in favor of front squats. I can’t imagine they did 100 reps of front squat, but who knows. :confused:

I’m sure no word from s&c will be said until everything has been evaluated. Anything said could be trouble later on.

Didn’t this happen to a highschool team recently too?

100 squats could be enough for a couple of weeks of training. 17 minutes…

Agreed, Doyle has had a pretty solid reputation for years. I have felt for many years that he’s done a great job with athlete development with a lot of kids who were not highly ranked out of high school-Bob Sanders, Dallas Clark and others.

It is surprising to hear of him subscribing to such a protocol-if that is indeed the case.

Banned back squats?!!? Who are these people? Why does strength training have to be so polarizing? If ever you find yourself in an argument with someone over “front squats versus back squats”, I truly think you are missing the point.

Having said that, if anyone has video footage of these guys doing 100 front squats in under 17 minutes, please post it for our viewing enjoyment! It can take the place of my regular viewing of “The Biggest Loser”.