BFS claims that doing parallel squats almost totally eliminates knee and hamstring injuries. I read a book of theirs with a chart of 25 years and thousands of athletes who performed PS and 1 kid had a knee injury in all that time. The reason was a complete balance of strength training occured when PS were performed.
I believed it when I first heard that about 4 years ago. So I observed athletes at my high school. … I was convinced at what I saw. Nearly every athlete I saw who had a knee or hamstring injury had a direct correlation to less than parallel squatting (squatting high).
off topic, yes, but what do you guys think? Any reason to argue against their research?
He also said in his stint at a high school in washington, he had a football team with 50 guys run between a 4.8 and 4.5 forty. They were supperior at the parallel squat. They won the state championship while holding the opponent to minus 77 yards offense.
James, I also feel the same way about hamstring work. It doesn’t take much with weight work to cause excessive soreness and tightness there. We typically do hamstring work on the last workout of the week so that it provides the most rest between workout sessions (i.e. do it fri, next session is Mon)
I warned One of my athletes who is at a MAC school about doing hamstring work in season and going hard. Sure enough, 2 weeks into practice he pulls a hammy at practice, missed considerable amount of time as a result.
I think in programs where speed work is non existent, doing post chain work can be done more so, but when adding in speed work, particularly max veloc, this has to be monitored carefully.
I often reinforce to my guys how important it is to me that their bodies feel excellent as frequently as possible and how I’m willing to go to great lengths to do what I can to assist in this process.
Agreed.
I’ve learned of an incredible amount of programs, both collegiate and NFL, that never conduct actual speed work. Hence the inadvertent compatibility of the monstrous weight training loads that we see so commonplace.
This is because the coaches, apparently, do not understand what actually constitutes speed development due to the indoctrinated belief that ‘you can’t teach speed’ and athletes won’t get much faster then they were in high school.
Those M/W runs all depend on the speed. Slow enough can serve as tempo, too fast and you end up in trouble.
I visited an NFL team with a similar set up, although their speed work was more like cone drills, and their “tempo” run speeds increased each week leading up to a 4-day balls out session, 2 weeks before training camp, where they would participate in 60 practice sessions in a few weeks time. :mad:
Thank you for your input! When doing weight training and alatic work on Mon/Thurs. Are you doing Monday upper weights and Thursday lower weight or doing both upper and lower on Mon/Thur?
Totally unnecessary. A multitude of movements may accomplish the same objective
I don’t like leg curls for the same reasons I explained regarding why I don’t have my guys perform the GHR. Higher reps are more effectively tolerated when the magnitude of resistance is low
Total body primary weight training on Mon/Thur
What we’ve been doing for the first block:
If your doing total body workout, are you doing medicine ball throws with upper and lower throws? For example, medicine ball chest throws with front medicine ball throws and backward medicine ball throws. How do you determine the volume of intensity of throws?
James, what is your basis for this? Could you elaborate? Considering a hamstring pull is multifaceted, all things being equal I feel the opposite about the GHR.
We know that the primary function of the hamstring during ground based locomotion is to extend the hip. Placing substantial load on it as a flexor of the knee, in my view, places a non-complimentary stress on it that when combined with the stress of high speed locomotion increases the likelihood of pulls.
This is the theory that makes sense in my system and I have a fantastic track record of hamstring health with my players during the times of year in which I have autonomous control over the entire training load.
It is not my intent to discourage others from performing GHR and hamstrig curls. To each his own.
I’m wondering if you could put this in some kind of context for the sprint community here.
By that I mean is there a point, in terms of distance, where certain exercises become more risky? I imagine some exercises are less risky if being done during a time which emphasizes 0-20 compared to max velocity work?
You are correct. As ESTI mentioned earlier, the dynamics of sprinting, from a muscular standpoint (specifically regarding the hamstrings) exist as:
start and early acceleration - lesser hamstring involvement
as the upright position and max V is approached the stress placed on the hamstrings is at its height
Thus, from a weight training perspective, far greater liberties may be taken during the GPP and early phases of a short to long program because the stresses associated with max V and speed endurance runs are not yet present and any strength gains yielded from posterior/hip/leg resistance training are likely to be realized in improved start and acceleration.
Exactly. Just received a message from one of my college athletes. They pushed the envelope in the weight room while adding longer max speed runs. 5x10 on RDLS at a fairly high percentage of their squat. Guess what happened?? After 13 hamstring pulls, this coach still hasn’t learned I guess. :mad:
This has turned into a really interesting thread, thanks for all the info James.
I really like the look of your programme in general. One thing is was wondering about though is the above quote. I understand where you are coming from in that general strength is one of the easiest qualities to develop in your athletes as a strength and conditioning coach. I believe that most football S&C coaches put far too much emphasis on it at the expenses of other elements of their programmes. However I am slightly surprised at just how little emphasis you seem to put on it.
Simply looking at it on paper I would have thought that only the most gifted athletes would develop the strength and size necessary for football without more emphasis on weight training. Obviously this is not the case as your athletes are doing tremendously well.
I would assume that the answer probably lies in the other elements of your programme such as sprinting/jumps/med ball work driving the progression of weights and allowing you to use lower volumes/intensities. Would you agree with this?
If you had a player come into your programme that was skilful but much weaker than they should be for their position, do you think a greater emphasis on strength work would be necessary, or would the way your programme normally works be sufficient to bring them up to the desired strength levels?