New application for EMS…mosquito bites. Ohhh, the relief!
What kind of Hz would be needed to use for strength EMS stuff?
Would this be sufficient, or are higher power needed?:
Pulse Frequency: 2-150 Hz
Pulse Amplitude: Constant current 0 to 80mA each channel, adjustable (500 ohm load).
I know that the strength thing is 10 seconds on and 50 sec off, just curious if this power would be high enough for most athletes.
Man, you just gotta search through this thread, all the info is there.
I finally got my Neuro Trac Sports EMS unit in btw. Its awesome thus far. I’ve just been fooling around with pad placement and different programs! its been really great so far. feels pretty smooth, but I havent tried other ones? so im not sure how to compare it yet
After I use it a bit more, im ganna make up a custom program and see how that goes as well. its nice having duel channels, so I can work both legs/arms/etc at the same time. The ramp up time makes for a smooth contraction, and theres lots of rest. so far so good though, great price, great product.
Could you show me then, I looked, but didn’t see anything relating to the range of power that should be avaliable to do strength work with EMS? Maybe I missed it, just didn’t see anything specific to this in a post.
Nevermind the above post (unless someone knows what the answer is).
Anyways, the machine I’m about to get can only go down to 2 seconds contraction and relaxation. Would that be ok for pulse mode, or is that contraction too long?
Also, from what I’ve heard, you can turn the thing down to 2 htz, and get 1/2 second pulses (I dont know how that works out, but thats what I heard from someone who owns one on here).
So, would 2 seconds be ok for pulse mode, and if not, would 1/2 second pulses be better (or work at all) for pulse mode? Thanks for any information.
Is it ok to put the electrodes over bone (such as the shin bone) when trying to target some muscles? Or is that bad?
Anyways, the machine I’m about to get can only go down to 2 seconds contraction and relaxation. Would that be ok for pulse mode, or is that contraction too long?
Also, from what I’ve heard, you can turn the thing down to 2 htz, and get 1/2 second pulses (I dont know how that works out, but thats what I heard from someone who owns one on here).
So, would 2 seconds be ok for pulse mode, and if not, would 1/2 second pulses be better (or work at all) for pulse mode? Thanks for any information.
Could someone please answer this for me? I would really like to know.
For the pulse mode it’s ok (not the best) but not for strength!
How Much is it?
Website?
Its the 7500. It fits the strength times, I’m just talking about the pulsing part.
What would be bad about doing it on 2 seconds, and would it be better to do a 1/2 second on, 2 seconds off?
2 Hz are 2 pulse in 1 second.
If you set the machine with an activity time of 1/2 second, you’ll haven’t 2 Hz.
2 Hz are at least for 2 second of contraction.
For me (in this situation and with this EMS) 2Hz at 2 seconds of contraction e 1 second of relax (or you can try 1/2 s. too) is better .
In CFTS chp 9 pg 175, it talks about EMS intensity setting (0-10) and has different intensities for each muscle group.
Could anyone clerify this intensity setting for me? Is it a personal feeling? is it the MA on your EMS unit?
I have a custom max strength program set up, but im not sure about how to incorperate the different intensity settings for each muscle group.
Thanks for any input
The 1-10 scale Charlie is talking about a realtive intensity. 1 being easy and 10 being as much juice as you can stand. So like you said it’s a personal feeling not a MA setting or anything like that.
alright, thanks mortac8
I have another question. max strength EMS work should be done no sooner than 2 hours after an intense workout. Usually at night time, and treated like any other workout with warm up, stretching, warm down, etc.
I would like to fit 3 EMS sessions into my week, but my intense training sessions (sprinting, weights, core) are during the evening (5pm to ~ 8pm) So doing an EMS max strength program at 10pm or later isnt always possible.
Is it alright to do max strength EMS work on a tempo day (before tempo, during the morning)? Will this prolong CNS recovery? or does EMS work by-pass the CNS and not effect the 2 day recovery period.
Here is an example of what im talking about
Tuesday – intense training 5pm-8pm
Wednesday morning – ~10am max strength ems work (~an hour of EMS work)
Wednesday afternoon – 3pm tempo work.
Thursday – intense training 5pm - 8pm
is this too much? should i just hold off on the ems stuff for now?
I’m not Charlie, but it definitely does bypass the CNS, but will cause muscular fatigue. Depending on how depleted you feel, this may cause problems. Some people report DOMS after their first few EMS strength sessions.
You could try it. I don’t think it violates any key principals. Just look at it in terms of absolute time instead of days. EMS does bypass the CNS for the most part.
Tuesday – intense training 5pm-8pm
[14 hour break]
Wednesday morning – ~10am max strength ems work (~an hour of EMS work)
[5 hour break]
Wednesday afternoon – 3pm tempo work.
[26 hour break]
Thursday – intense training 5pm - 8pm
bump. any info?
Cool, thanks a lot mortac and Davan. I will take your advise into consideration and experiment a little over the next few weeks.
and just so we dont lost this question again, which im not sure of, but dont really need to know. vvvvvvvvvvvvv
I don’t see why you would be worried about putting the electrodes over the bone at the intensities we are using–when you stim your feet, for example, you will be right around/on top of bones in the feet. I doubt though that placing the pads on your shin bone will effectively target anything. Look at an anatomy chart before trying to get too creative with it.
so is there anything wrong with this unit? im thinking of purchasing it,…
anything wrong? I dont know about that, except for the fact that they don’t ship to Canada!
The ramp up time could be better (<1sec) but its good enough. Im not sure what programs it comes with, otherwise, give it a shot, you cant go wrong for 50 bucks.