EMS UNITS Charlie, Others!?

is this any good?

INCLUDES:
Digital Electronic Muscle Stimulator EMS 6500 Unit
Lead wires
9V alkaline battery
Package of 4 self adhesive electrodes (patches).
Operating manual

TECHNICAL PARAMETERS OF THE EMS 6500:
Channels: Dual
Mode: Synchronous, Constant, and Alternate
Waveform: Asymmetric biphasis square pulse
Pulse Amplitude: Constant current 0 to 80mA each channel, adjustable (500 ohm load).
Pulse Ramp: 1 to 8 seconds.
Pulse Frequency: 2-120 Hz
Relaxation: Variable Control (2-99 sec.)
Contraction: Variable control (2-99 sec.)
Compliance Timer: 60 sets of operation records, 999 hours record time
Weighs only 150 grams, with battery.

Type: Dual Channel
U/M: Each
Item #: ESI11201

Product from category:
EMS Units

$137.09 $97.92

also i can get these y splitters to connect 8 pads… would this be a good idea ro would it take too much of the juice and not be powerful enough?

Frequency too low.

gf,
what should the frequency be and what does that mean?

the higest frequency i have seen was 140 and this unit is 120.

Quick where did you find that?

tim,
i will send you the link in a private message. rupert said i cant post links. then respind back on this thread and tell me what you think.

yes, no maybee so?
ok does it suck or not!? :confused:

is this the EMS unit from Vitality Web?

EMS for Strength Development & Recruitment

Protocols from Zatsiorsky

carrier signal = siusoidal or triangle
freq = above 2500 hz
modulation = 50 hz
duty cycle= 50% of the signal is applied for 10ms with a 10ms interval
between trials
contraction time = 10s
rest =50s
contractions per day = 10
days per week = 5
stimuus amplitude = dep on athlete, typacally 90v
need a multi pad machime with small contact points.

I presume this is what you require the unit for. The units you list have too low a frequency to be of any use. Can forum members list available EMS units that may be suitable for Quick?

One suggestion:
http://www.toneamatic.com/productDetail3.asp?category=TDR+(RUSSIAN+STIM)+SERIES&productName=TDR+(RUSSIAN+STIM)+SERIES

Any other suggestions?

Charlie, Clemson?

The unit has up to 120 htz. Why too low? The Russian stim is interrupted down to 50 htz. Try it and report back. If the unit is good at this price, I want to see it. It has the timing parameters we need, though the minimum ramp (time to max) is prob a little long. Splitting the leads, as you point out, may dilute the power too much, but still could be good for pulsing/relaxation purposes. Check if replacement pads are easily available.

Send product info to info@charliefrancis.com

thank you for the response Charlie,

here it is…
i will send it email…

I have been looking over your protocols in Training for Speed and on T-Mag and this is the best unit i was able to find that goes along with what you suggest. Tell me more about the ramp time…is this that bad or should i go and order it. I have just been waiting for oyu to give me the ok and im going to do it. i just odnt want to spend this kind of money if its not worth it. Tell me what you think.

I just wanna know if we can take it back if it sux, anyword on the warranty?

Tim,
yes you can within 30 days.

Charlie,
the info has been sent.

The price is sure right, though I’d like to see it up close. The ramp time just means that you “ramp up” from zero to max progressively when the contraction starts- otherwise you’d be blown out of your socks with a sudden maximum-force jolt! We used 3/4sec rise, as this was tolerable, but 1 sec will be fine.

lol.

sounds good.
im goin to put it on my credit card now.

i am looking for a new EMS unit, i’d like to spend no more than $450.00, for this much what do you guys think is the best unit i can get? i’m basically looking for a machine that i won’t outgrow, because i can no longer get a maximal contraction on my old one. thanks

I got EMS from mettler electronics its called sys stim 226. It cost a little over 1000 bucks wooouuu I know I paid for it for 4 months. Anyway the waveform thats used for muscle power stimulation is medium frequency
frequency 2500Hz
Only problem with this one is that it gives maximum intensity 50mA at this frequency(the machine got different freq. for different kind of stimulation needs) At best for hams I have used 40mA(allmost popping my eyes out) so there is still some room.

Does anybody got any thoughts about testing different muscle groups for white muscle cells with EMS? I remember Charlie(I could remember wrong) stating that the less intensity you need to stimulate the muscle group the more prone it is to explosive strenght.

For front thighs I only need 25mA to allmost make them explode but as I said earlier for hams I need 40mA…I want my hams be the fast twist muscles hahah

P.S. It would be nice to change ideas about using EMS for different purposes. What freq. for what probles and so on if anyone is interested feel free to email me:D