Actually quite a few do, myself included.
I don’t know I just argue for the sake of arguing. You know how it is to be a crazy sprinter.
On a final note, I used to think I was some big time squatter then I went to a place famous in VA, Mikes olympic gym where they had hydrolic squat lifts. For those of you who don’t know what that is they are electrically controlled to move the bar up or down. Those guys used to laugh at me. And every guy in there claimed they could squat 800-900 pnds raw. Its a world famous gym. I remember once a guy was watching his son a 13 year old baseball player squat 315. I believe he was a record holder in his division for squat or dead lift can’t remember. I’m working out with 275 for incline and he looks over…man you wouldn’t get nothing in a meet the way your bouncing that weight son. HAHA. I had to pause one to just to let him know. You don’t mess with Dr.Sprint.
Seriously though it was a very humbling experience I wish others could have the chance to work out at a place like that.
I’m 175lbs and I squat over 400…
I also bench over 300…
Given, I was a powerlifter before I began to sprint but still…don’t make rash generalizations.
What that sprinters aren’t as strong as powerlifters.
This rant has gone on long enough. I will end it now.
And to be fair to Ben… he did have bad knees!
Sorry if I offended any sprinters that can’t squat as much as top notch powerlifters.
Deal with it!
Yes, when I re-read the speed trap thingie the science of phosphagen regeneration, I’m sure, will be revolutionized. I much admire your knowledge. So you are a deep student of the spring model, I take it? I like how easy it is just to make stuff up, get a couple of guys to agree, and move on gay as the day is long.
Davan gets to the point with the idea that the 1000# club powerlifters are all 300# and up because sprinting is all about how much force you can produce vis-a-vis how much mass must be moved by it (and the time the force is applied). It’s just basic Newtonian crap that a simple internet thread can reduce to shreds in minutes, though…
Right?
It’s freshman year in college stuff though to talk about why powerlifters don’t sprint. Their physiology doesn’t allow them to sprint well enough for it to do much good, frankly. It’s pretty obvious. Lots of powerlifters do crazy box jumps though and have awesome power-to-bodyweight ratios which would make them excellent sprinters for as long as they could maintain output. Which means not long if you know how fast muscles fatigue under outputs that high and since we know that it’s muscle fatigue and not fuel that slows us down.
Aside from that strength training has the advantage over raw sprinting of progressive overload and adaptation. You can sprint longer but you can’t just decide to sprint faster, which is what would really make you stronger in the 1RM range. On the power rack you can just add more weight and voila…
RDC ran 9.9 in hs for 100yds. Pound for pound one of the strongest powerlifters ever. By the way the 1000 pnd club is not just made up of 300 pnd guys, you must have not done any research on the subject to come to this conclusion.
The rest of your post. I challenge you to re-read Training for Speed or CFTS. Angela blew up the weights on days that werent hard on the track. I don’t know what page its on but its there.
Rant is over.
The Average squat of the top 10 guys at the IPF World Championships of 2006 of the 75kg or 165 Pound division was approx. 289 kg or 637 pounds. And for the 82.5kg or 182 Pound division it was approx. 296 kg or 652 pounds.
So we can safely say the top power lifters in the world between 165-182 pounds are squatting 637 to 652 pounds just breaking parallel in a single-ply suit, knee wraps and weightlifting belt. I chose those weight classes because it seems most top sprinters are usually around those weights, not much higher, not much lower.
Don’t even mention the WPO, the equipment in the IPF adds enough to the squat as is, the WPO equipment is ridiculous, plus the addition of not having drug-tests and the 24-hour weigh in (correct me if I’m wrong), I feel it makes the WPO less of a practical choice here.
So are those numbers much higher than a sprinter if we take away the equipment power lifters are using? Not much, but yes, it should be, the sole purpose of Powerlifting is to increase your numbers; the sole purpose of sprinter is to be faster. But there are DEFININTLY some cases of sprinters having world class Powerlifting strength, of course, the are practicing much of the same training philosophy. Arguing this fact is just showing some ignorance.
Thoughts?
What are you John Kerry or George Bush. One minute your talking about Paul Anderson squatting 1200 pnds raw then the next your taking about the averages not being much more then a world class sprinter.
You say there just breaking parallel. Please. You ever looked down the face of a 900 pnd squatter that could care less if you sprinted. They don’t take to it kindly. You can trust me on that.
Stop flip flopping! Pick a side and stick with it. At least Im consistent. The world record at 165 for MEN OPEN is off the map. Even the WOMENS OPEN record is off the chart. Sprinters are so strong then man up and do a powerlifting meet, go break a world record and Ill clap for you.
Sprinters are so arrogant I cant believe Im one of them!
This thread ‘Sprinting makes you stronger?’ has been hijacked and degraded into some idiotic debate between the strength levels of power lifters vs sprinters. This area is for expert discussions not novice playtime, stick to the thread topic or stay out.
Remember that world famous powerlifter that claimed he could run 40yds faster then any sprinter on earth then got smoked. Same principle here. I dont care what you think, I got the b’s to it say and I side with the powerlifters side on this one.
No one wants to talk about what was written by Charlie years ago and how weights and sprints effect each other so why bother. I could post the whole excerpt from writings still wouldnt change anyones mind. It doesnt matter. And by the way, I cant imagine any powerlifter reading this thread though and thinking highly of sprinters. LOL.
My post was specifically directed at you!!!
Mine was directed specifically at you!
Then raise the level of your participation(logic) or do not post in this section.
The only way any you can argue with me is to throw personal insults. You got me hyped for starts. Im pissed.
Now you know what others feel like when you ruine good topics
Paul Anderson did that lift around 1960 that was amazing for that era. No lifting suit.
Where did this thread go?
Lets take the top ten sprinters in the world and average their FULL squat, bench, and deadlift. It will come well short of world class powerlifters. I can see most people disagree here by my -50 rep points. Ouch you think guy from Boston cares? Funny how all my positive ones just dissapeared into thin air. It doesnt matter! Rep points are basically kiss ass points. I don’t kiss any ones ass! Should I be insulted you ask! No! Ill tell you why. Half of you don’t even know who Curtis Frye is! We got people who believe in immortality beads! I had one person telling me that the GRE was scored out of 990! And the other half can only respond with how big your crank is! Logic huh. It seems to be absent here if you subtract people like quickazhell, piere, no23, charlie, maybe a few others. Anyone can talk smack when the real name isnt even listed. Im the only one that had the B’s to post my real name and where I’m from! Long live the full-squat! 
Im done don’t worry I wont waste any more precious forum space!
Develop some comprehension, yes I’m impressed by Paul Anderson’s squat, my latest post nearly agrees with what your saying about how the average of powerlifters are most likely stronger than the average of sprinters, I don’t understand you. You really make no sense in your posts. I posted some informative stats about powerlifters, then you insult me. Yes I have looked down the face of a powerlifter squatting 900, I grew up in a family of powerlifters, I’ve done a powerlifting contest myself. What does a 900 pound squatter have to do with caring about me sprinting? You make terrible posts. Re-read your posts my friend, before you hit submit reply. I’m all for discussions, but keep it relevant and on-topic, not on me. Picking at me or whoever disagrees with you is not the topic.
Specifically…
Don’t even mention the WPO, the equipment in the IPF adds enough to the squat as is, the WPO equipment is ridiculous, plus the addition of not having drug-tests and the 24-hour weigh in (correct me if I’m wrong), I feel it makes the WPO less of a practical choice here.
So are those numbers much higher than a sprinter if we take away the equipment power lifters are using? Not much
Re-read your own post!
BTW over 2000 views in what one day! SO much for Garbage posts!