When the load from each is dropped, the results for both go up. Load of 90% for 2 spread out over days for squat and bench make the lighter sprint work (95% of max speed for one rep after 4 x 30m starts) makes for a big performance PB in the big race.
To be fair to the doubters, I have seen documentary footage of Ben benching and (not that it matters) but it wouldn’t be anywhere close to powerlifting legal. No pause, big bounce off the chest, hips coming up off the bench, feet not planted etc.
Definitely no pause and often with the hips comming off but no bench shirt either, just a t-shirt. Check the bench of the guy going over 1000 in the bench- the get-up he has on is a couple of inches thick. That changes the leverage as well but, at such weights, the shoulder structure would come apart without the substantial support!
It’s a standard practice among power lifters (and some football teams) to use bench boards for some of the routines to break through barriers.
im with charlie on this one. all those lifts you mention dr sprint are with guys using shirts that at the tonnage add 200lbs on their total. did ben sniff amonia b4 he benched? naw i dont think so he also was a sprinter and that is why his numbers and impressive. he didnt train to bench or squat he trained to sprint and still while dedicating more time on the track than anything else he exceled in the weightroom.
Paul Anderson did a 1200 pound squat no suit
Paul Anderson has said himself that he could run 100-yards in just over 11 seconds. He seems to be very honest on this page I found.
http://naturalstrength.com/features/detail2.asp?AuthorID=158&ArticleID=306
Interesting, I’ve never done much reading on him before.
Today I squatted 185lbs, no suit or knee wraps.
I cant even do that without my ankle brace.
Thanks for finding that, Paul Anderson was a great lifter and had a body weight of 360lbs what did he produce for watts with he’s leg strength.
What could have been an interesting thread turned weird by probably the weirdest dude I’ve seen in awhile.
Here are a couple of rules for the internet and not looking like a complete JA on it:
Nobody cares how much money you make.
Nobody cares how big your crank is.
Try to know something about what you’re talking about before you do…
Amazing.
Anyway, I’ll bring up Barry Ross again for a minute and how he looks at strength training and sprinting.
His athletes work out BEFORE they sprint and based on reps and time under tension as well as rest periods the two theoretically have little to no effect as far as fatigue is concerned.
Is there any science on some magical ying/yang interplay between strength training fatigue and sprint fatigue? If one is really negatively affecting the other, you’re probably overtraining and just basically have no idea what you’re doing…
Who are HIS athletes?
Spach whatever, re-read speed trap and how weights effect the training. Certain days the athletes could blow the weights up ect. Re-read it I challenge you. And pulling some barry ross quote out. Who cares. Someone like Curtis Frye is a thousand times better. Who in their right mind would lift before sprinting? And ask yourself if sprinting is so good for powerlifting why the heck would’nt ALL powerlifters do it. The fact is no one on this forumn probably squats over 400.
power lifters dont do it because if they dont use the right technique, the risk for injury is not worth it. adding a stimulus that is possibly doing more harm than good is the reason why the heck powerlifters dont do it.
and yes there are lots of ppl who squat over 400 on this forum.
lol. Im not even going to respond to that. I agree though, why put in a stimuli such as sprinting that could be doing a powerlifter more harm then good! Face it no sprinters are lifting world class powerlifting weights. This is probably the reason powerlifters hate sprinters. We brag about how much we lift, but in reality its really nothing compared to a world class powerlifter. Wouldn’t you all be mad if some powerlifter said he could run 9.7 or 10 flat. Its the same thing.
i’m 16 and i can squat 400 to parallel, 400 is not really that much
this reminds me of the
shit-suck-good-great
scale from dave tate. it really changed my outlook on things. (400 pound squat? thats one third of what they do.)
Well yes, but other things to consider:
suit
ultra wide stance
monolift
no usada/wada
bodyweight over 300lbs
Of course I couldn’t approach their totals and the sport is now based on maximizing gear, but their numbers would be a lot different using normal grips/stances, no suit, etc.
all of those factors would move me from shit to suck. lol
Taken from the Paul Anderson article:
Half squats - 1200 - 2 reps
Quarter squats - 1800 - 2 reps
Shame on sprinter.
B’s.
How do you compare Paul Anderson to a sprinter? Where are you going with this, who are you trying to prove wrong?