Relative sprinting strength

Just read this on www.Defrancostraining.com–

“For the past 9 years, I’ve been analyzing athlete’s running technique. I’ve literally watched thousands of kids run & I see the same technique flaws time and time again. Guess what I found? Almost ALL aspects of proper sprinting technique rely on RELATIVE STRENGTH & flexibility. For example, driving your knees up, pumping your arms fast, keeping an upright posture, taking big strides, etc., ALL rely on being strong in relation to your body weight & flexible enough to get in the proper positions! Ironically, most kids that are pathetically slow are also overweight & most of them can’t perform even one chin-up or do one good squat with their own bodyweight! What does this tell you? These kids would get better results by getting involved in a proper strength training & nutritional program, as opposed to just running all the time. I always tell parents that their kids are slow for a reason… I then explain to them that being slow is the PROBLEM, but relative body strength is usually the CAUSE of the problem. The most effective way of fixing a problem is to fix the CAUSE; treating the problem alone just won’t do it.”

Seeing as we have sprinting experts here. Wouild you guys endorse the above statement?

yes with young weak athletes, middle-high school.

Joe Defranco
In really basic, general terms, would you say that for training athletes in all nonendurance sports, the goal is to get them strong and then get them fast and then repeat? Obviously, you’d be focusing on other things like flexibility, conditioning, coordination throughout but for the most part, it’s strength.speed.repeat? Thanks

My answer depends on the level of athlete you’re referring to.

If you’re referring to 99% of the grade school and high school population, then my answer is, “YES, strength builds the foundation for speed.” There is no question in my mind that this is the way to go.

I have wasted way too much time and energy focusing on speed training with athletes that are just too damn weak to hold the proper positions required to sprint efficiently. Finally I stopped listening to the ‘experts’ and went with my gut feeling. My gut feeling was that if I could get these kids stronger, they would physically be able to get into the positions that I was teaching. Once I focussed on getting this “general population” stronger, teaching speed became easier and my results got MUCH better. This is when I started to develop a “name” for myself in my area.

The problem most young coaches make is that they will follow advice that doesn’t pertain to their athletes…I have seen way too many coaches follow the “New England Patriots” strength program with their high school football team; or they follow the “same” speed training philosophy that Charlie Francis used to train Ben Johnson, blah, blah, blah.
I have to let these coaches in on a little secret…your high school team is not the New England Patriots and no one on your team is as fast as Ben Johnson. Every young kid that enters your program is going to need to get stronger…and getting stronger for young athletes is EXTREMELY valuable to almost ALL other aspects of performance during that stage of their career. I know this because I have seen it time and time again for over 10 years.

My main point here is that I feel most coaches should worry more about the 99% of the population that they are going to deal with…not the 1%. FYI, below is a video of the 1%. Deon Anderson was 1 of 2 athletes to ever show up at my doorstep “strong enough”. Deon entered my program squatting 600 lbs. (easy) and benching over 400 lbs. For a guy like this, speed training & sprint mechanics took precedence over getting stronger when he was training for the Combine. If our only goal was to keep getting him stronger, he wouldn’t have done as good as he did at the Combine and who knows what would have happened with his career.

The moral of the story is to know the level of the athlete that you’re dealing with…and don’t randomly take advice from coaches if their clientelle is different then yours!

Mr. Defranco, your results cannot be understated. I have a question for you. Have you ever found that some athletes actually became so strong that additional strength wouldn’t improve their jumping and running abilities, in fact decreased them? Many authors claim that once the athletes squat 1.5-2 times bodyweight more emphasis should be put on explosive training.

Yes, once an athlete achieves a certain level of strength, future gains in strength will not necessarily result in faster sprints or higher jumps. Unfortunately, when some coaches read a statement like this, they down-play the role of strength with ALL athletes. (Most coaches who work mostly with high school athletes will never encounter an athlete like this.)

As I’ve stated before, in my 10 years as a professional in this field, only TWO athletes have entered my program “strong enough” – Miles Austin & Deon Anderson. Miles squatted 515 lbs. (as a wide receiver) & Deon squatted 635 lbs. (as a fullback), yet both were considered “slow” for their position by NFL scouts. If I focussed on getting them stronger, their 40-yard dash times wouldn’t have improved. Sprinting (and diet) took precedence over lifting for these guys. Now this doesn’t mean we neglected their strength, but the lifting workouts were designed around their running workouts.

FYI, I don’t have any “hard” rules regarding when an athletes should focus more on strength or speed, etc. Many coaches will say once an athlete squats 1.5X his bodyweight, no more strength is needed. I take each athlete as an individual. I compare their 1RM in the squat to their vertical jump, 10-yard sprint time, 40-yard sprint time, bodyweight, etc. After an athlete trains with us for a week or 2 and we gather all of the important indicators, we make a decision as to where the emphasis needs to be placed in his/her training.

Very interesting where he talks about gathering info on ‘indicators’ before designing the direction of a programme. Makes me think that alot of the information out there is too general and doesnt take into account individual athletes strengths and weaknesses

haha, obviously he hasnt seen charlies graphs - especially the Right to Left one comes to mind.

what about in the CFTS book, “if it looks right it flys right”
hahahaha - why would he bring up CF if he hasnt obviously read (or understood a word of it)

Joe’s program is not designed for track athletes he even says that himself. I don’t really understand his criticisms of CF because he clearly works in another field. Most of the speed workouts are designed for acceleration. The program fails to consider max speed. For instance if a track runner trained them selfs to accelerate with these methods than their mechanics at top speed would be negatively effected.

He’s working with football players who want to do well in the combine. They need to be OK but not great. To be OK it works!

I don’t think he was taking a shot at CF. I just think he was using CF as an example that many coaches try to emulate. I also think he was trying to point out that those coaches are not coaching Ben Johnson (or any other elite).

It SEEMS that he believes, or has been led to think that the CFTS is a cookie cutter program…
Which isn’t the case and shouldn’t be the case.

The easiest way for about 98% of the athletic population to improve at their sport, is to simply get stronger. Very few coaches have to deal with the elite 2%.

Just because you are strong, does not mean you will be fast. But if you are weak, you will defintely be slow.

TNT

thank you he wasnt taking a shot at cf bc he use alot of the cf stuff.

thats funny. if you were training a combine skill athlete what would a typical template look like.

Speed work has a profound effect on your strength too. Weight room is not everything

He had the word ‘same’ in quotes so i suspect he was making a point about individual programs.
That said, the idea that speed concepts that work at the top don’t apply to slower athletes in other sports is not correct, though the reverse is.

Perhaps he knows something about my clientele that you don’t.

I can’t wait to get Joe’s upcoming book - “Weight Loss for Speed”…

its already out on ebook.

Charlie
Is isometric training for improving speed and sprint technique sufficient (without the aid of weight training) and if so would you know of a good regimen or resource. Or do you believe weight assisted training to be superior?

Thanks

T.Major

Isometric training vs isotonic? No contest.

Just to be clear. Weight training yes- isometrics as a supplement as well- maybe - if there’s time left over.