NFL Conditioning Test

Mr. Cody failed his conditioning test and had to take it three times to pass. I think this is so dumb, you have a big power player who may play 3-4 plays straight before sitting out a couple plays. He plays nose tackle and these guys must be big powerful animals in the middle and stuff the gaps. Who cares if he can run 16x110 or 12x40 or whatever the Ravens conditioning test maybe.

If I recall correctly it was 8x150 shuttles (25 yards each way) in 26 sec. with 52 seconds rest for skill players. Not sure of the rest interval for the big boys.

52 rest isn’t bad I guess, but 26 seconds of continuous work never happens more than once or twice a season (hell even a career) in American Football.

A much more bioenergetically sound test would be 4-7 repeats of either 40yd dashes, Pro-Agility Drills, W-Drills, Sled Pushes (w/ appropriate weight), etc. with 35 seconds rest inter-repeat for 3-4 series with 3-5 minutes of rest inter-series.

If they wanted to get really sound, they could construct a test specific to each positions biodynamics, but lets not get our hopes up.

Another DT/NT failed a test - Mr. Haynesworth.

The coach made him run 3x300yd shuttles instead of 2. LOL :confused:

Ok I think we all know these quote on quote conditioning tests are kinda ridiculous. Ok plan ridiculous. My college guys told me there conditioning tests for there schools and I just shook my head. 1 kid told me that his school (small D3) used the ever useless agility ladder as part of there testing. I just drove off.

Interested in knowing what our test consists of?

I’ll give you three guesses and the first two don’t count:

  1. We stun them with misplaced lactic loads
  2. We stun them with misplaced lactic loads
  3. There is no test

Albert Haynesworth has failed his conditioning test for a second consecutive day and is being forced to sit out practice again at Redskins training camp. Haynesworth did not pass the test Friday morning, in a repeat of his result Thursday, Day 1 of camp. Haynesworth boycotted the team’s offseason workouts and minicamps because he is unhappy with the Redskins’ switch to a 3-4 defense and wanted a trade.

Catch 22, they want him to pass the test so they know he’s in good shape to lessen the chance of injuries - I think having him performing the test back 2 back days will enhance the chance of injuries.?

Ironically, if he keeps failing this test, he will avoid much of camp and reduce his chance of getting injured. Perhaps this is his plan (I use the term “plan” loosely).

It’s weird because the guy failed the test yesterday then they made him performed dl drills and treadmill workouts follow by the fitness test at 8am this morning.

The test:

2x300yd shuttle - 25yd increments.
3.5 rest
First 70sec
Second 73sec

Albert came in at 71.

Titans coach Jeff Fisher said RB Chris Johnson would go through the 300-yard shuttle run conditioning test on Saturday.

CJ got that speed reserve. :wink:

Obviously tests are done to see “who did work” while away in summer and for the coach to have some comparative value to see “who is in shape.”

The issue, as most would agree, tests have little correlation to “game specific fitness.”

Football culture and coaches traditions enable these type of tests.

My question to everyone is how does a strength and conditioning coach establish a measure of evaluating “fitness” in an athlete? Is it even worth “testing”? I have my feelings on this I will share later.

In my college players, I have seen everything from 30x110 in 15 sec/45 sec (WR), 24x55yd 8/35sec (DL), to gassers, half gassers and 300 yd shuttles.

Anyone following a light conditioning program should pass the standards…guys are coming in fat, weak, and slow. Everyone assumes people are coming in explosive and fast when in reality they are not coming in any form.

Albert is not learning to preserve his type II fiber or managing his CNS and pulling a Farve by pacing himself though the season. He just came in out of shape.

Reminds me of the story Charlie told about an Aussie rugby star (Tuqiri, I believe). Apparently they gave the players 6 weeks off at the end of the season and then had a conditioning test when they returned. Tuqiri, a specimen and from what I’ve heard, one of the more explosive players in the world failed the test and was sent home from the training camp on the spot.

The other issue that you will see is that these tests are often dominated by some of the LEAST explosive athletes on the team with the faster guys usually bringing up the rear.

A big problem with football coaches is that many still conduct 2 a days and training camps as if the players had been sedentary the entire off-season, as was typical a few decades ago. Nowadays with OTAs, minicamps, and lifting/conditioning starting in March, the volume and grind of camp is something one must survive rather than a stimulus that builds to a peak before the regular season and in my opinion is largely outdated.

We were required to have a ‘conditioning’ test in 07 or 08 after one of the breaks and, if I remember correctly, this is what Buddy and I came up with:
Take their 40yd time, divide by .75 (ergo their tempo 40) and have them run it X amount of times with 45 sec rest between each run. I think the small skill guys ran 16-18, big skill 14-16, and linemen 12-14.

Buddy and I basically wanted to have a compromise between what the football coaches would recognize (ergo running) yet something that was consistent with what they actually do in training (ergo tempo) that ultimately showed they maintained their general aerobic capacity; or ‘shape’ for the layman.

If I were to construct one that were to correspond to competition biodynamic/bioenergetic structure then it would be an alactic capacity test that was more 70/30 or 80/20 special strength/short speed oriented for down line, 50/50 special strength/short speed for big skill, and predominantly short speed with possible change of direction for small skill. Done in this way, contrary to the abortions that currently constitute ‘conditioning tests’, one would actually have an accurate idea as to the player’s readiness for training camp.

Yes - it’s like watching the 1500m in the decathlon at the Olympics. Everyone who is on the podium is essentially “jogging” the last event as it is relatively inconsequential.

Tuqiri was a beast, and litteally dominated the field after he was reinstalled in the national team that year.

Based upon his appearance alone, the coach who sent Tuqiri home for failing to run X amount of kilometers fast enough should have been fired on the spot.


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