How do guys go from 10.20 to running 11 flat

Looks like he can touch his toes doesn’t it.

Mini-Me,

I don’t want to be negative but here is what is going on from what I see.

One particular coach down south does the following.

  1. Uses an orange overspeed cord 50 meters in length…

  2. Bans massage since the therapists will explain overtraining…

  3. Does near maximal leg extensions

  4. Had one sprinter receive 6 injections of cortisone to run a lame meet in europe.

  5. Verbally abuses everyone to make them “tough”.

  6. Invented a new way of running…

Still he attracted world champs, olympic sprinters, and other top 5 world ranked elites.

I have only been coaching track for only 6 or 7 years so what do I know.

Should have used me as an example. i ran hand timed 10.70 in hs and had a lay off of 9 years and first 3 runs back all 12 secs. I had Played alot of sport so was still fit, but did a whole year of only gym work on legs and got awesome gains…but…couldn’t run out a 100m for crap…quik 40m then tighten up.

So factors contributing to that was layoff, bad conditioning, lack of training.
in 5 months i got my time back down too 11.2.

Charlie…loved ur point on stretching. I always have an active warmup. only stretch i do is my hip abducters.

okay my bad, very muscular AND flexible!

wow. That is amazing. I tore mine a year ago and my calves still a half inch smaller. I’d love to see some of his work outs and rehab work that got him to to 9.98 from an achillies tear.

And relaxed…look his eyes :o

Didn’t Mark McKoy tear one or both his achillies and he won the Olympics afterwards?

HMM Not sure but, I would not be suprised if he did. I heard he had a good coach! :eek:

Herb,

Since were on the topic, do you think that EMS might help building up my calve where I tore my tendon? I still feel the weakness. I tried the physio but I really did not see great results.

There won’t be any short term solutions. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. You need to build up the strength again. It will take however long it takes. Just don’t everdo it and cause more harm than good. Be patient. Get into the pool. You can stimulate your CNS in the weightroom if you can’t put out the intensity on the track like Ben did when he hurt his hammy.

You mention calf size…how is the strength?

As far as EMS, if the protocols are right, then it should help. I am not expert on EMS though. Charlie?

Charlie, how necessary is a doctors for a begginer athlete became a sprinter ?
I mean, to do body tests, measurements, cardio, lungs, limbs, etc…

Troy De Santos, very fast. I used to always see him training at York when I was training, however, he was older and I never had the opportunity to run with/against him. His starts impressed me, he was the only sprinter I knew, aside from BJ, that starts with both legs and it was very natural.

Its ironic you mention Carlton Chambers, I went to elementary school with him. He was known on the track cicuit in elementary school as Ben Johnson. He would shave his head like Ben right before races and wear a red tank top and shorts, mimicing Ben’s '88 run. Looked like him to.

LOL its funny, I remember getting into a fight with him over some soccer game in the school yard during recess. I still have some elementary school class pictures together with him. From what I remember he wasn’t very dedicated to training until later in his high school years. He came from a Brampton Track Club and trained under Mark Guthrie (and now resides in Mississauga I believe) and then began training on a full time basis and after only a short time later, he displayed his natural talent and won Olympic gold in '96 and many other meets along the way.

No. He had surgery on the bursae.

Not to step on your toes, but wasn’t Carlton’s times, 10.27 and 10.19, respectively?

You’re probably right.

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Here’s a quote on Bailey’s therapy specialist:

"Dr. Michael Leahy, a Colorado Chiropractor (and Aeronautical Engineer), developed many of these techniques. This response was triggered by a need for Olympic and professional athletes to return to training at 100 percent intensity as soon as possible after injury and often after surgical procedures, avoiding up to ten weeks of the usual post-surgical recovery. Donovan Bailey has claimed Leahy’s work to be invaluable to his 100-metre gold medal victory at the Atlanta Olympics. Bailey has been shown receiving these treatments from his chiropractor, Dr. Mark Lindsay, numerous times on national television after both his Achilles injury and his more recent hamstring injury.

Virtually thousands of elite-level athletes in almost every sport utilize these techniques for both maximum performance and treatment. Now, more practitioners are becoming accredited to provide their patients with the same level of soft tissue care. Dr. Leahy’s techniques have only been taught for five years and therefore many patients and practitioners have yet to discover them.

Injuries such as muscle tears or knots, rotator cuff tendinitis, tennis elbow, carpal tunnel, whiplash, tension headaches, back pain, tension neck syndrome, plantar fascitis, hip bursitis, sciatica, scar tissues or any tendinitis or myofascitis may be helped by these techniques.
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Also, after Bailey’s achilles surjery; “For a year the only running he could do was in water.”

:confused: So what do suggest pre-workout?

Scarface that is A.R.T.

That’s what its called… The founder is Dr. Michael Leahy!

I saw Troy run at Canada Games in 97 when I competed. I think he ran 10.41 then? Or was it 10.31? I am not sure but it was pretty impressive for his age :slight_smile:

I have also watched him run a couple of races indoors this year.

He still runs sub 7 consistently for 60m FAT if I remember correctly.

I think he might have busted out a 6.8 this year?

Anyways it would be difficult to compete at that level for years unless you had a LOT of cash (sponsorship or otherwise)

These guys have to work, raise families, eat and do all the same shit we do.

No free rides or big dollars for Canadian athletes.

The work involved, sacrifices, and lack of compensation would make it tough to stay in the game for long in my opinion. Injuries of course play a factor as well.

Cheers,
Chris

hi guys…interesting thread…i’m at work so i’ll post a quick thread…Injuries play a massive part in the reversal of performance…I’m a classic example. This year has been a mental and physical battle for fitness. Those who read my postings would know about my neural problems and hamstring strains. Last year I ran 7.01 indoors then ran 10.8 outdoors…finished season injury free…This year i’ve put more work into my body…went warm weather training get regular physio,osteopathy etc and ran 6.9 indoors. Come April this year I got injured. It was a major set back for me… I was hoping to run 10.6x this year. I’ve run a few races and have struggled and i mean struggled to break 11.00…my races have been inconsistent (11.02 -11.78). and its all been down to 1) injury and mentally not having the confidence to run fast and 2) forgetting where i was ‘this time last year’. I’ve since taken 4 weeks off…done absolutely nothing! and u know what I feel great! Its been a massive weight of my shoulders…I’ll be back into training in 2 weeks time and i’m hungrier than ever!! grrrr! :smiley: