DB Hammer critques Crawford

Expert Discussion Advanced Sprint Training
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So I’m sitting around tonight procrastinating (I’m supposed to be doing research for a paper) . . . and I decide to visit t-mag, a site I haven’t visited quite some time, and came across another thread dedicated to the infamous Dietrich Buchenholz.

Just to give you some background on the situation, two of DB’s boys who run his website (listed on the website: Jeremy - Customer service, And Brad Nuttal - webmaster) have been posting intimate knowledge of DB’s training system, and advising people how to use it properly, and incorporate his principles into their workouts on at least two boards recently . . . of course with all of the usual BS about ‘top-level athletes’ they’ve seen DB train at his ‘secret compound’ and the ‘confidentiality agreements’ that they had to sign (but couldn’t understand because they were written in German) :wink: I think these two guys just dreamed up DB as a way to market themselves, but that’s just my opinion.

Anyways . . . I came across this interesting post from Brad:

“. Actually just the other day he (DB) critiqued the men?s 100 meters in an email to me. He said that if Shawn Crawford used a variation of overspeed-reactive glut hams (among other things) that he would have won the men?s 100 meters without losing his gold medal in the 200 meters.”

And then, this later on in the thread . . .

"Why do you suppose SC?s technique is off? Because he?s activating his hips out of proportion with his hamstrings, right?(the body is a kinetic chain/closed electrical circuit…blah blah blah…you remember that, right?) So solving the problem from a hip extension movement isn?t going to cure the problem because his gluts will take over. And the action leading into ground support indicates the need for glut hams. Don?t forget that a muscle contraction is stronger when trained from one joint opposed to both joints simultaneously. And let?s not overlook the fact that his right plantar flexor musculature needs to increase muscle stiffness through neural-driven means. This isn’t even the half of what he shared with me in that email…

Look…I don?t want to fight you with, LR1400, we?re all in this ship together. But it does make you sound like a jerk when you simply claim that his form was off but you don?t say ?why? it was off or ?how? to fix it. I apologize if I didn?t state everything that was shared in that email?and overlooked the fact that the reason he called for certain exercises was because he fixes technical problems through functional re-direction?but, then again, that?s not what this thread is about so I just made a comment because I thought it might be interesting to those reading it?not because I thought it would set you on fire!"

And then, even Charlie’s name/system gets brought up ( . . . you don’t need to use tempo runs if you follow DB’s system!!) . . . .

“Something else I want to say?I had this problem at the beginning and I know a lot of newbies to his system make the same mistake I did (and sometimes still do) so I should probably mention it here. Don?t mix parts of somebody else?s system or training program with DB?s system. Take CF?s tempo running(since it was just mentioned in Tungsten’s post)?CF needs that in his program because of the way he sets everything up?DB?s system doesn?t. So even though it may work great on CF?s program it will hold you back on DB?s system. I went to his compound about 4 years ago and since then I have literally drilled him with questions on a daily basis. To this day I have yet to find a hole in his system. Like I would read about GPP and SPP and ask him how he fits this in his routine?.but it?s already covered. I read about accomodating resistance or proprioceptive work or whatever else I could think of…but everything was always covered! If you perform your workouts by starting with a restorative-warmup and then lead into a specific warmup followed by your ?fundamentals?(the workout itself)?then follow this up with more restorative-warmup work (think of it as a ?cool down? period) before performing your relaxation techniques and so forth?and so forth…IF you follow his program as he lays it out in basically an hour by hour schedule then you will cover everything.”

Comments?!?! :smiley:

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What is thie DB system? I personally think Shawn didnt win because he didnt run his best race that nice simple as that. The guy from Portugal stepped up noone really expected him and look where he ended up :slight_smile:

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I know his stuff that’s online (you can easily google for it), but WHO is Mr. Buchenholz really? Was he an athlete?
Was he successful? Or is he just a self-made trainer?

THX!

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To be truthful after viewing DB hammers video’s hes exercises are the same as everyone elses except for a lot of them he tries to find a way to add a quick stretch.

  1. OI’s appear to be a limited range of motion weighted plyometric.

  2. As far as I can tell PIM’s are just max duration isometrics.

  3. Reactive exercises appear to be dive bomb ones, basically just a very quick stretch where you try to acc. the bar in the eccentric potion.

  4. Iso’s are just what they sound like.

  5. Strain is a near maximal lift

  6. Mio lifts are basically concentric only ones

  7. OLP appears to just be a lift with weight releasers

  8. PLIO exercises seem to be an accentuated eccentric, or heavy eccentric

  9. ADA exercises appear to be altitude landings

  10. FDA seems to be the same as OI except a much larger range of motion(drop the bar, catch at bottom then propel all the way up, although they did have a drop snatch in the example)

  11. A Power PIM exercise seems to just be one done in a Dynamic nature

  12. REA exercise are just plyometrics, or weighted ones

  13. A Speed Strength PIM appears much like an OI, but towards the outer ROM

  14. RA appears to just be a plyometric exercise(quick stretch then shortening)

  15. And all endurances variations appear to be higher rep variations of all these and long isometrics

His system is not hard at all, he just makes it seem like that with his terminology. The basicas to his system are pretty much that it is heavily based in the idea of stretching shortening cycle. I like it though, except I think he gets too specific with some of it. I will probably use some of it. The only thing I really dont have down is the auto reg system, which I am not really a fan of anyways, I like planned workouts based on my own knowledge of how well I recover based on different things.

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check you u2u box svass.

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“overspeed”-reactive glut hams

How would you do those?

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basically take the position of a glute ham raise, launch yourself down during the eccentric, then come back up as hard as possible during the concentric.

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“He said that if Shawn Crawford used a variation of overspeed-reactive glut hams (among other things) that he would have won the men?s 100 meters without losing his gold medal in the 200 meters”

I didnt know it was so simple…

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And I just thought he was blowing his load in the rounds…

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Thats what I thought also…and maybe, he should have use the earlier rounds to set up the rhythm of his race.

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I was the one arguing with nuttal who is DB’s homie. I basically think the guy was using catch phrases to look like a sprint guru know it all.

I told him that it was bullshit that Crawford needed overspped reactive glute hams. Top speed sprinting isn’t reactive enough on the glut hams?I told him SC form as erratic in the start and even thoughg his “knees flare” at top speed that might not need to be corrected as he is running sub 10’s rather consistently. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

Also, I let him know that SC might have won if he hadn’t flown through the heats.

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Re Crawford not winning:

Firstly there was a guy named what was it, oh yeah, Justin frelling Gatlin in that race, so maybe that had an effect on placings.

But: Maybe this has been discussed, but SC looked to be both looking into Gatlin’s lane(?) and kind of twisted in posture during the final. Was he too concerned with what JG was doing? Also, he looked more psychologically ready before the 200 than he did before the 100.

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There’s this theory out there that DB is actually Jay Schroeder. There stuff is awfully similar and both tend to use non-sensical words that sound really impressive. Any opinions on this theory?

A colleague of mine actually bought DB’s book; the thing makes absolutely no sense! It’s like reading another language. What a joke! I’m always impressed by those who can take a really complicated subject and make it simpler. This DB guy does everything under the sun to make even accomplished strength coaches feel like they don’t even know how to read.

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If athletes focused on running/performing 1st and marketing 2nd they would have much better outcomes…

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First off, Justin Gatlin and Shawn Crawford have the same coach, so we can discount any superiority of one training method over another from the start!
Fact. SC ran too hard in the heats and JG had a great start in the final.

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Especially since the training method is the CFTS :wink:

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In top sprinting coaching the saying should be; “All roads lead to Charlie Francis!”

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True…but heh…what do you know Charlie?! You only coached the fastest man in the world. No big deal really… :stuck_out_tongue:

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work backwards…fiind all the studs in the NFL, NBA, NHL, Olympics and see who is the man. then see where they live. Then see who they train with…not one stud I know has used DB.

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Actually, PIM’s are just normal lifts done quickly. No isometric hold or anything else.

I followed his bench program for one month and put 15 pounds on my bench press from my starting point. I was impressed.

I tried to apply his “train to 6% failure, then have 4 days rest” philosophy to my swimming workouts, and I didn’t see much success. Perhaps I didn’t do it correctly.

Mr. Buchenwolz likes to give his own name to virtually every known type of exercise, so it can be very difficult to understand at first. He can also be a bit abrasive. Here is the website:

http://www.inno-sport.net