— The source was a study done in 1968, before the majority of athletes in sports outside of the weightlifiting community were lifting.
Neither this exercise nor that exercise alone will achieve your goals. neither will this method only or that method only.
Please, quit bickering!
Some don’t believe they have the time, others have the coach not allowing it, some believe they have enough talent to exclude the lifts, and finally it takes a long time to master the OL.
I personally don’t believe that any of those are excuses to exlude OL. OL is the equalizer if your not born with “God given talent”. i.e. People of West-African Origins.
Just look at the Eastern Bloc countries in the 70’s and 80’s we all know that story.
Why? Its fun! It teaches higher learning as a result or it teaches you to respect other people’s opinions even if you disagree! We all want the answer, the good thing about it is that new questions bring up new answers maybe they’re right maybe they’re wrong.
heres my question, oly’s are a form of RFD training, why the need for RFD training if you sprint? And not to be rude, but you honestly believe Ben Johnson, Mo Greene, Dwain Chambers, Jason Gardner, Lindford Christie, etc… could/would loose to an oly lifter at any distance?
Discourse is a good thing, one thing I joined this forum for. Bickering is quite another.
Ceterus Paribus, let me pose the answer in a different way. If BJ were to face BJclone who did olympic lifts like an OL and had the skill mastered and maybe cut out less important stuff then BJclone would beat BJ in the 100M.
Time needed to a OL became a good “sprinter”:
3 to 4 years…
Time needed to a Sprinter (like BJ or MO ) lift good weights:
Next Season…
Time needed to develop to the elite level for sprinting in anyone’s case - 19-20years, minimum! (Meaning, if youre a begginner, or fat, or not talented, you can improve a ton, pretty much by any method! What you do when you hit that advanced level is of more consequence, so what if that’ll take you 3-4 years to get there anyways? Would have learning OLs been such a waste of time?)
What’s the point of that statement flying?
Here’s all you need to know about weights and just about any athletic activity
You can do just about anything better if you’re stronger. Use any method you like, and will use to get stronger, until it interferes with what you wanted to get better at in the first place, or ceases to work.
Maybe there is an optimal way to get stronger, maybe an optimal way for Sprinting, but maybe, there isn’t!
Maybe, everything works, maybe it works only once.
Take away this message. Please don’t limit yourself. Keep Learning. Learn how to discuss, not bicker. Try new stuff, I promise it won’t be bad.
Bodybuilding over 5 years will always slow you down because you train your muscles to be slow!
If that’s the case then why didn’t Charlie have Ben learn the clean even though Ben was still reverse curling the bar after an extended period of time. :rolleyes:
I can reverse curl 205lbs how does this help me sprinting?
answer it doesn’t! It trains me to flex my biceps which you do not do at any point in the race! 
Ben had poor form on the power clean, oh well they said, nothing is needed, so they tossed it. They felt their energy could be spent better towards developing running form and upping limit strength. Sure didnt hurt him…and his two training partners were proficient in the clean, yeh couldn’t touch him on the track…
So what your implying then is that no sprinter should do cleans! :rolleyes:
The implication is that there is no necessary exercise other than track work. And there is also always carryover from training parts of the body that have no action in sprinting. It is a way to spread the CNS stress around.
did a session last week, 8 x 150, 8x170, 8x180, Real squats ASS to FLOOR baby, felt good, BW 84 kgs
THATS what I call Squating. Sadly though a lot of people can’t do it for problems with the back and knee. I have them but I never stop full squats. Just rest and then restart. Its great.
sorry thats kg, keep forgeting to covert, that would be 330 pound,374 and 396 pounds, i do ware the bar a little lower down the back to lock in, my legs fairly long for my height but im not that tall, 180 cm, so guess squating is probably easier for me.
Me (Male) 3RMax - 485 lbs and 1RM - 501 lbs at 170 lbs with knee wraps and belt.
Girlfriend 3RMax - 265 lbs at 130 lbs bw with belt.
Cookie
40years old 180 pounds 4 reps @506 box squat my training partner 178 pounds 4 reps @ 572
385 lb Bench Press, 385 lb Full Squat, 405lb Parallel Squat. Last week. :eek: