Davan, James here (work computer won’t let me log out of this name),
Whether you find the same usefulness as I do I think it’s worth noting the significance of the charts:
Don’t forget the fact that the material was originally published in the 80s and in Russian. It goes without saying that the only foreseeable reason, at least at that time, for constructing such evidence based theory was to further the power of the Soviet Sport Machine.
The training exercises were presumably familiar to the vast majority of coaches and athletes (minus exceptions here and there) in the Soviet Union.
In terms of the usefulness of the material to those who utilize different methodologies, at the very least such individuals (e.g. those here that subscribe to different training methodology) are the wiser to consider not only the kinematic nature of training exercises and their transference to sport (the all to common mistake made by westerners in general in their attempts to train ‘sport specifically’) but, more importantly, the neuromuscular similarities.
I would be surprised if any coach, regardless of their level of success in coaching athletes in any conceivable discipline, was not able to find useful insights in the Transfer of Training book.
I’ll use myself as an example. I have worked my way to a level in which I am working with some very gifted athletes at the D-1 level here at PITT in the sport of American football and I have found Bondarchuk’s findings to be monumentally useful with respect to formulating my own planning strategies and the means that are used in the training.
While his specialty is the throws let’s not forget that Bondarchuk has coached more medalists in international competition than any coach in the history of the games. Additionally, I would wager that Bondarchuk has worked with more national and international level T&F competitors in general than the vast majority of coaches in the western hemisphere.
Based on this information, I would encourage you to not discount the value of the data as a whole even if your specialty is the sprints.
It’s still important to recognise that the correlations only applies if you use the method of training used in the test itself- as most Soviet coaches do.
I’ve been away for a while, so hi again folks! No, I’m not joking. These are the numbers I’ve stumbled upon whilst collecting data on standing 5-step. I would say that they tell us more about the capabilities of jumpers than that about carry-off to sprint times: an 18 meter 5-bound is not that revolutionary if you’ve practiced the event.
Here is Beat Hefti working with 485 on the squat. Obviously the man is strong but he doesn’t appear to have the build to run nearly as fast as some have suggested. One thing I saw said he was faster than Cedric Grand, who happens to be a 6.6 60m man. Someone on the old forum said Hefti ran a 6.2 60m with a 1 meter run in.
UKcheetah, I’m very impressed with your 19.40
if it really is from standing! My best long jump
is 809m and my pb in standing 5-bound is 18.17
and 22.07 with 4 step approach wich are concidered as good test results among jumpers in here in Europe.The only ones I’ve heard that have jumped over 19m from standing are Christian Olsson and Dayron Robles.I’m sure there are others but not too many!
I can’t bare the shame! lol only joking.
Ok, first you need to know a couple things - I took up athletics seriously at 17 in decathlon, so many events and no coach = god awful take-off technique resulting in 6.70m LJ and an ankle injury that prevented me from competing properly for 18months. I have managed to sprint again indoors this season, 60m = 6.94.
Coaches have shown a lot of interest due to my plyo ability, and with healthy ankle’s I hope to move to triple jump. However the plan for this summer is 100m - 10.75 - 10.89… and to be able to long jump with a decent technique and no pain by the end of the season. Oh, and I want 40m on a running 10bound test:D
Hi Cheetah, 40m in a running 10-bound test
should be very easy with 19,40 from standing
in 5-bound test.Actually you should jump close to or even over 40m from standing. Anyway 19,40 is incredible and it would be nice to see
it on video as I have never seen a 19+ live despite training with alot of better jumpers than myself. Keep on bounding!
All this is making me doubt my own measurements! I mean I’m pretty good at bounding but as good as Olsson, Robles? lol.
I have to film it and double check next time… 3.88m per bound seems a lot from standing considering a 3.27m standing LJ.
It may be a while before I next test, but I’ll film it and see whether there it was a mistake or whether I am a 19m 5 bounds guy!!
In retrospect - I regularly go out to over 20 metres on 5 hops from a 40cm box, and that’s without long jump style landing in the pit - that’s 4m per hop.
BTW is there any idea as to how much time one gains from the one meter fly zone? For instance, when Beat Hefti is running 3.47 30m and 6.33 (reportedly 6.20 at one time) 60m, what is the adjusted time?
