try me I might believe you if you explain…
i tell u what. u can read about it in the book that we will publish, how’s that. 
ok sir, then you have no right to spout these statements unless you can back it up.
they never got close agian but you have to say 96 was both of their peak years. frankie ran 19.92 indoors in 96, about as likely to be broken as MJ’s 19.32. they both had been pro’s for 4-5 years at that time period so wern’t getting crunched into the NCAA seasons and could work full time as track atheltes. Also Frankie’s 100 pr is from 96 on Lausanne with a slight headwind. Perhaps with no quad injury for Johnson he could of came back faster in 1997 who knows. keep in mind their age’s frankie was 28 turning 29 during the 96 season and same with johnson actually only a month apart in birthday. eventually the golgi tendon complex as well as max strength just kind of stop being so keen. To reference CFTS. 22 is roughtly the reflex peak adn 28 the strength peak. granted that is under the eastern bloc organized youth system which presumably was forgin to Johnson(from inner city Dallas Texas) and Fredericks(largest city in Nambia forget the name), but still they seemed to be in the primes of their careers…
For referance Menna was 27 when he had his perfect run. Deloch and Lewis were pretty young when they ran 19.75. Lewis turning 23 a month after his and Deloch 21 a few months before. As for the rash of fast 200’s this year: Gay is 24, Spearmon is about 22, Carter is 20 turning 21 soon. As for the other guys sub 19.8(which is a whole different leauge from 19.3 but still). Boldon was 24(on the atlanta track) but the 200 wasn’t his event so much as the 100 imo. Marsh was 25(he was never close again but hey it was a freakishly sick run). Crawford was 26. So it seems that the 24-28 range is where the top performances happened for these guys. With 96 being an olympic year you can probably guess that fredericks and Johnson were geared for it and eshewed faster times in 94,95 or 97 for the big one(whether purposefully, incidnetally or by complete accident they didn’t run faster before or after 96).
edit: Johnson a little more so than Fredericks but they had lots of 19.8-9 range runs in golden leauge and worlds in the years preceding and following 96. I just think it was their peak performances more so than the track in Atlanta.
random tidbit: johnson had been as low as 19.79 as early as 92. fredericks 19.85 in 93.
they used 2 say the same about the 100m, that u hit ur peak at 24 to 28 yrs bt consider this carl lewis at 30 managed a 9,86 pb and wr, linford christie age 32 9,87 pb, merlene ottey age 36 10,74 pb, steffano tilli age 36 10,20 just ,04 outside his pb and age 39 10,26, now i know stefano’s times r not that great bt try and find someone that old run that fast.
just goes 2 show that what ppl THINK is the limit, is’nt necceceraly the limit.
ur probably right, it’s b4 it’s time ppl r’nt ready 4 it.
You ve proven you haven’t got a clue and when you do produce the goods then you maybe able to lace my boots let alone consider yourself to be half as smart considering your bullshit posts. I am suprised that we are giving you forum time, by answering your posts, but then its only because the forum wants to show you there errors of your ways. It doesn’t cost anything to read your weak posts (not even backed up with a research paper or pqualified experience) but don’t expect to have any unanimous agreement on what you type. You offer nothing new but sensationalism and conjecture. You pick out one aspect, like intra-muscular co-ordination and proclaim that its the solution to the white male sprinters hopes of running below 10 secs.
Besides its very easy to type that you meant something else after posting it obviously its YOU who does n’t have a clue. You come onto this site and proclaim bullshit…making aspertions not founded on practical experience or any first hand observations but deductions and inference from a book.
If you have found this answer then please tell us why the East Germans or the Soviets never figured out that their male sprinters were lacking in intra-muscular co-ordination? Why did two sports systems that were funded by a significant percentage of their respective GDPs not able to come up the same solution?
On one hand you say that white sprinters are not genetically disadvantaged yet your whole arguement leads to this conclusion. You say that black sprinters have greater intra-muscular co-ordination. Well, why is that? If black sprinters have a greater intra-muscular co-ordination, and the only exclusive thing they have in common is their skin colour then are you not then saying that they have a genetic advantage? How can you then type that white sprinters should not believe that they are genetically disadvantaged when your whole arguement is based on the assertion that they are?
often the most obvious solutions r over looked, keep in mind that plyometric training is a very logical way of increasing power today bt no one in the west thought of it, it took scientist/coaches from the eastern block countries 2 figure out how 2 train the muscle elastically. 2 discover something new u have 2 open the mind and explore the possibilities.
i believe that todays coaches only know maybe half of what there is 2 know about athletic preformance and it has reached a stagnent point because of the “steroid thing”. mr francis not charlie bt stephen is making huge advance ments. i mean he got asafa running faster than ben clean and it’s only the begining. ppl don’t appriciate it because they r so conditioned 2 think all wr performancesr drug boosted.
there is still alot 2 b discovered and that is exactly our business.
as far as forum time is concerned, i think i added a bit of spice 2 the forum, i mean 14 pages and counting on my first thread is not 2 shabby. if it was that bad it would have died out a long time ago. i don’t do boot lacing bt when i do produce the goods i’ll reserve u a v.i.p seat 2 witness it first hand,since u make ur self 2 b so majestic, hows that.
If that is the case, then why did the Eastern block miss such a crucial limitation, that white sprinters are disadvantaged by intra-muscular coordination and yet they discovered plyometry?
There are two types of forum members hear who generate posts in numbers. There a those who I call the positive prolific post generators like the 400m training posts from KIT KAT. Duxx’s ability to add much to the discussion and of course the man himself… Charlie Francis. Then there are those like you… who find the site, then post countless copious amounts of type about the SAME theory that they have discovered after usually reading Supertraining or Enoka. They come onto the site then proceed to proclaim that they have found the holy grail of sprinting. When challenged… they refuse to budge from their unsustainable positions, spewing even more confounded bullshit as they go down in flames under the overwhelming evidence that has been provided by the forum. When challenged they become abusive and throw personal insults at forum members. Well…you certainly made an impact… but was it what you set out to achieve?
as i said the most obvious solutions r often over looked. having said that, the process of rectifying the problem is rather complex and lengthy.
u r actually the one who insults me and if after all the posts i have posted stating what my aim is u still have 2 ask what is my aim then it’s better u don’t call anyone slow again. i have already said, that 99,9% of the ppl who influence the lives of white sprinters will convince them that they r genetically inferior and this thread has proved that.
Are you telling me, that they missed this crucial “rather complex and lengthy” process?
How lengthy, a lifetime? How complex? Anything that is complex invariably has many factors to control.
Are your methods repeatable, and scientific? Or is it ONLY you who could apply these methods?
Actually its YOUR very arguement that will influence white sprintres that they are genetically inferior.
remember i said it would take a special coach 2 solve the problem, a coach that knows the athlete and sport 101%.
the methods r fully controlable and repeatable and scientific and is contiually being researched and developed.
if u wait 4 the book u can read about it.
it’s ppl like u who say that whites don’t have the body shape or ft fibers, these r the things that can’t b changed bt my theory allows 4 inprovement right up 2 being even or better than the black sprinters
Assuming that you a correct, it means that when black sprinters undertake the same training they will be able to maintain the gap between them and their white counterparts. So in that case we would be back where you wanted to move from…or are you saying that its exclusive only to white athletes?
I have NEVER said that white men are limited by genetics in the sprints…please read my posts carefully because if you can’t comprehend what I have typed then you have no business talking about solutions or writing a book to push your ideas…
Ft fiber makeup is plastic.
Can’t you see that it is YOU who is actually saying that somehow through genetics white athletes are limited because they lag behind in intra-muscular co-ordination?
By the way plyometry is indicated for the improvement of intra-muscular co-ordination…so I can’t understand why the Soviets and East Germans, Poles and others missed this fact.
so 2 set the record straight, y r white men slower than black men in ur opinion. 
o and by the way, i’m not “going down in flames” i think u watch 2 many A-team rerunes.
i have never said that anyone has 2 believe our findings, u and everyone else r free 2 believe what ever u want, just remember there is only one truth though.
You are just trying to provoke now, how about answering my questions about the fact that the Eastern block was not able to pin point intra-muscular co-ordination as a limiting factor in white men?
There are two ways to answer your question 1 by looking at the stats and not taking anything into consideration then yes more black men have run faster that is de facto, but if you are asking me if white men can’t run below 9.9 secs then no as I believe they can. If you are asking me if a white man will NEVER run below 10 secs then no, I don’t believe that but obviously you do because you are talking about rectifying a problem which you believe is a physiological problem . I think its mental/psychological in origin much like if you tell someone that they are stupid enough times they will believe they are stupid. Secondly I think too many white male athletes put too much importance on plyometrics and weights especially in Europe. They forget that they are sprinters not weight lifters.
If you are not trying to convince us to believe your theories then why are you bothering to post so much?
The question you have put to me should really be ansered by yourself. YOU must obviously believe that white men are slower becasue you have identified intra muscular co-ordination as a physiologically limiting factor…if that is the case then are YOU not saying that white athletes are limited genetically?
What is the cause of this intra muscular co-ordination deficit, is it something they eat it must be genetic if the majority or ALL white sprinters suffer from this percieved affliction?
u’ll have 2 ask the east europeans that question, i’m in west europe.
what about the white american and canadian sprinter, do they also do 2 much weight and plo, i was under the impression that the same coaches, coached white and black athletes.
so u r telling me that u don’t believe that whites have any physical disadvantages? is it possible that no coach can overcome this simple mental/psychological problem ? that does’nt really say much 4 todays coaches if that’s the case.
as i said b4, the exact cause and solution is continuosly been reaserched and developed.
martn76, I think its best to stop posting in this thread and put him on the ignore list. You’re only going to see his “philosophy” when you shell out money for his book LOL 
if martin76 has something 2 say, allow him 2 decide if he want’s 2 say it or not. just enjoy that drink ur having and watch from the side line.
True I agree with you.
carl was on a super track where pretty much everyone pr’ed. he also was a multi event guy(long jump anyone?) so that might have changed things up a bit. Linford started late… so his 32 is everyone else’s 28. also 9.87 isn’t on the same level as a 19.7 or 6. as for merlane she is awesome but i don’t see where she fits in on a discussion about white male’s? certaintly not as a prerace fluffer she has too much class for that. so where doe’s she fit in?
the seperation between 9.8x or 19.8-7-6 and lower and 10.2 is like that of 11.0 fat into a headwind and 12.0 downhill with your 4 year old sister timing.