Alright I already ordered the book in the mail along with defrancos vertical jump book. I have heard that Supertraining is one of the best books out there for training.
I was wondering how indepth siff goes into with vertical jump development. Does he dicuss these factors that go into jumping:
Control and stability
General Strength
Range of Motion
Maximum Strength
Maximum Power
Starting Strength
Force Absorption Training
Reactive training
Short response reactive training
Speed of movement
You’ll most likely be disappointed. There are no examples of anything in supertraining. You have to have a good coaching background or be very experienced to realize how things fit together.
BTW, I’m curious where this list comes from?
Control and stability
General Strength
Range of Motion
Maximum Strength
Maximum Power
Starting Strength
Force Absorption Training
Reactive training
Short response reactive training
Speed of movement
supertraining is an interesting book but a tough, boring read. To be honest I found it lacking in real practical information and its much better suited as an intellectual/academic read.
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I believe the exact opposite. I was so interested in the new information that I spent every free minute I had reading it. Supertraining is nothing BUT practical information. The thing is that he doesn’t put out cookie cutter routines and instructions (making it even more practical). You must take this information and utilize it within your own training. This text is full of great information.
lol yea its from you kelly and im kinda mad about not being able to get your ebook b/c my mom didnt want to pay on a non secure site. so maybe i will get it sometime later??
but for now i will read the supertraining book when it comes in.
I was SOOOO disapointed in Supertraining. It’s all conjecture and ideas, No real recommendations.
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Yes, that book is so far and above the rest for real info. That with Neuromechanics and you have all the physiology stuff you need. Maybe throw in a Russian type training book for workout recommendations if your into strength/speed stuff and your set!
“This book has been written solely for the purposes of education and information. It is not intended to be used as a practical manual by the unguided athlete or coach who may not be sufficiently aware of the efficient and safe ways of implementing the means and methods of training discussed in the text. … …”
Supertraining is a great text but not exciting reading, but everything is in there you just have to find it. on a side note if you really want to learn alot from Dr. Siff you should join the supertraining web group and read the thousands of posts he left for us. its like reading a new article in every post and he writes it in a very understandable tone.
You’ll most likely be disappointed. There are no examples of anything in supertraining. You have to have a good coaching background or be very experienced to realize how things fit together.
Having said that I still think it’s a great book and still recommend it for people who are serious about learning…particularly those who are serious about coaching. It takes some time and thought thought for the average person to apply a lot of the information. I took about 40 pages of notes on speed-strength alone when I read it the first time. On my 2nd reading I must’ve inserted 100 stickie notes with various topics marked where I could easily find them.
And Mel’s forum archives are great. The searchable archives can be accessed here at google groups:
It’s crazy, but I guess I’ve read a lot drier texts than Supertraining so I was lucky because it was actually an interesting book for me. No laid out program details but the info on program design is there. You just have to figure out how you want to use it and cycle the methods.
Now if only I could find my handwritten but undoubtedly lost supertraining notes!
some interesting bits here and there, but mostly a doorstop for me these days…
I thought it would be this uber book about all the things I ever want to read, on all things I ever wanted to read on training
I was pretty dissappointed as a result, a lot of stuff in there, but also not a lot of stuff - ie so much water everywhere, but nothing to drink
most of the info you want out of it, is already out there everywhere anyway, in a useable practical form
I was mostly disturbed by the cover art on the sixth edition. A half-naked man and woman with dumbbells standing in a circle with a sun in the background. It’s a little disturbing…
I didn’t say it was a bad text, the book is a work of academic brilliance and the late Dr Siff is a genius, and I mean that sincerely. However nothing in it is readily applicable without serious interpretation.
Unlike Charlie’s or Ian Kings material which is readily applicable.
It took me back to long, dry lectures in my sports sci classes at PSU. I certainly wouldn’t recommend it to a beginner or anyone looking for information to apply immediately.
I agree that it is not for a beginner or an uneducated (I’m absolutely not saying that anyone on this thread is uneducated) individual. Itdefinitely takes interpretation, and I think that is what I like best about it. I am tired of texts that tell you “this is what you have to do, and this is the only way it works.” I like to integrate new theories into training rather than take someone elses predetermined routine. You are absolutely correct that Supertraining is only useful when interpreted by a knowledgable (and open) mind.
Your point is well taken!
That with Neuromechanics and you have all the physiology stuff you need. Maybe throw in a Russian type training book for workout recommendations if your into strength/speed stuff and your set!