Here a 200lb guy doing 600lb full oly squat for 3 reps with no belts, wraps or spotters.
Or Idalberto Arranda 170lb Cuban oly lifter doing 638lb for 2 reps
And you wonder why these guys can jump so high and acclerate so quickly…
They certainly are impressive. That squat from Arranda is totally off the frame!
By the way Col, who’s that pretty girl you have there??
is that what Ben Johnson did for his 6 x 600? or didnt he go as low?
the top one is the infamous “no-no-no,” no belts, wraps or spotters performed by ivan chakarov of bulgaria. the second pic of arranda squatting 638 lbs was taken less than 12 hours after he attempted to break the world record in the clean and jerk. these guys have an insane strength to weight ratio, and workout like this hours before and after meets. anyone have any idea how they can do that? it certainly seems like it would take a toll on one’s strength, but these guys do full workouts with crazy weights on the mornings of their competitions.
I have seen both of these efforts on video…WOW!! The first guy, Ivan Chakharov (sp?) is especially impressive as he performed the nearly 600 lb squat in bicycle shorts without spotters, belt or wraps in the 91 kg class.
where are the spotters are these guys mad.
Originally posted by bLiNk_mE
is that what Ben Johnson did for his 6 x 600? or didnt he go as low?
I think Ben only went to parallel
Originally posted by Neospeed
They certainly are impressive. That squat from Arranda is totally off the frame!
By the way Col, who’s that pretty girl you have there??
Just a friend 
Originally posted by Timothy Lane
where are the spotters are these guys mad.
When you squat this way - olympic style, upright - it’s quite easy to drop the bar behind you (at least if have practiced missing).
Re Squat
Ben went to parallel or just past (and he wore a belt and had spotters)
Originally posted by Timothy Lane
where are the spotters are these guys mad.
Olympic Lifters always lift within themselves, they never go near failure. So they could probably lift a tiny bit more :o
Members,
I have noticed in both pictures, that their feet are both turned out slightly.
My questions:
-Why? (does this help them with depth)
-Is it possible to squat this low with feet straight ahead?
-As athletes who use weight training only as general strength (and not their actual sport - then, should we keep our feet straight ahead or turned out slightly?
-Will the feet position in squatting have any cross over effect in the running style of the athlete?
-Will it create any muscle imbalances?
Originally posted by OorWullie
Members,I have noticed in both pictures, that their feet are both turned out slightly.
My questions:
-Why? (does this help them with depth)
-Is it possible to squat this low with feet straight ahead?
-As athletes who use weight training only as general strength (and not their actual sport - then, should we keep our feet straight ahead or turned out slightly?
-Will the feet position in squatting have any cross over effect in the running style of the athlete?
-Will it create any muscle imbalances?
Helps with balance, and it helps prevent knees buckling inwards, and does help with depth. You can stay more upright as well.
Man you squat with feet straight forward? :mrt:
hasn’t disrupted my sprinting or jumping for that matter.
What have you guys seen, heard or coached in terms of good squats from athletes who are not olympic or power lifters?
Eg: K.A. Aamodt - alpine skier - at 85 kg bw, he has done 220kg to just below parallel (hip joint or trochanter just below mid point of knee joint) about 2.6 x bw.
Bert Hefti - Bobsleigh - at ca. 100kg bw 260kg deep (thigh to calf) once or triples with 225 kg.
Pierre Lueders - Bobsleigh - at ca. 100 kg, deep (as above) with 560 lbs (ca. 255 kg) for 4 reps.
I am just curious - what is `strong´ in squats in sports where strength is a component but not the goal?:mrt:
CoolCoJ,
Yeah, I squat with my feet almost straight forward (maybe that’s why I have trouble with my form :))
I believe Ian King and Louie Simmons commented that they prefer their athletes to have their feet pointing straight forward when squating.
Well louie squats very wide, that makes things different.
I go for comfort and form, angling the feet outwards gives you that and a wider base of support, something that is helpful for balance when squatting with a shoulder width stance.
Oor, If you are trying to hit mainly quads then your feet are close together and your feet should naturally point almost straight ahead. Doing the oly squats and really involving your glutes and hams then requires a wider stance, which will naturally force your feet to point further out in order to stay in alignment with your knees. If your stance is wide and your feet are pointing straight ahead you are either pidgeon toed or are twisting your knees and stressing them needlessly.
The stronger you are in the hips the easier it is to squat with less of an outward turned toe.
To prevent injury I find it best to make sure your knee travels over the top of your big toe during the squat. This way it doesn’t matter if you point your toes out or straight ahead.
Comfort is the key! I have not seen any definitive research that indicates differences in muscle activity with varied foot positions The November 2002 issue of Pure Power has lots or information regarding squats.
CoolColJ,
did you see these pictures in a Milo catalog or a company like that? and if so did you see that picture of Beud Jefferies doing a 1700(or something like that) lbs quarter squat?