I was discussing on this topic with one my friend who critisized me because I wanted to develop one system of bball preparations for my final paper… He said: You didn’t worked enough, nor you had any results yet so how can you create your “system”!?
But, hey if you don’t know what you are going to do, how do you plan doing it and how to expect results??? You must have a starting point, a coaching philosophy in first place, offcourse flexible enought to change it over time and to adapt it over time when you gain new knowledge and experience…
Also, I am honest about my poor practical experience (but, hey I am at least honest about it) and some of mine friend critisize me how come I write articles??? Should I give advice about something I don’t have enough practical information/knowledge… Should I post my opinions how would I coach bball players without doing it in first place and having results?
I look at this issue, not as I giving advices, but rather collecting opinions and feedback to allow me to modify my “philosophy”…
A lot of CF.com users are “inexperienced kids” discussing their systems and methods and giving advices… is that bad thing… should they wait a long time in “trenches” (as Cogrove outlined in one of his article) before posting their opinions??? Should they have “results” before doing that, or are they able to discuss their principles and systems about how would they adress/solve some issues in training?
What does “elders” say about it? Should we keep our mouth shut-up?
There are some people here who I guess have “less” results than some that I would listen to before guys like Poliquin. An example, DavidW and Mort train college or part-time athletes in a similar condition that I am in (crappy weather, so-so facilities, etc.)–their advice and experience is much more topical to my goals than the advice Poliquin gives for full-time, best possibly condition (supps, diet, therapy, etc.), elite athletes.
There are things which can be analyzed by those “outside”, and some which are much harder without experience. Bill James didn’t have to have been either a baseball player or manager to point out, by looking at statistics, that some commonly used strategies were not optimal.
I really think the big breakthroughs will come from people who aren’t indoctrinated in the sport, because they can ask basic questions and propose training solutions that make sense from a training fundamentals perspective, rather than established doctrine.
Duxx, you know more about training than most bball coaches, for sure. Go ahead and do what makes sense to you.
Welcome to the real world,kids.Whatever you are going to say or not to say you’ll find doesn’t do that big difference after all.World is too big anyway.
Well, I can name a few…
In reallity, I don’t want people to listen to me, I would rather listen to their feedback to mine posts… this is a difference. I am not forcing my opinions per se, I am really looking for feedback about it…
Geeez! :eek:
This may represent a problem, because when people remember you as a quack then you ended your career… Writing “articles” is double edged sword!!! If you screw it, then you are screwed forever, but if you manage people hear your name without actuall results, what is the point of that? Being internet guru or something…?? naaah, not my goal, altought being heard of is a nice thing…
But should one provide results before writing articles… or try it at least in parallel? Maybe some “elders” are jealous because when they started out, there was no internet and no-one can comment and listent to their methods, and now they want new kids to pass trough same process?
As mine friend have told: Paper tolerates everything ---- everyone can write articles… Altought, with or without results, some people are better in writing than others
It wasn’t a personal comment … it was general … Duxx knows that … my point is don’t think that just cause you might get something a ‘little wrong’ - don’t start freaking out about it or that people will miss out on olympic golds or something … just do it and keep learning.
Like come one man even John Davies used write articles for T-mag so lets not get carried away!!!
Ok,Ok, I’m the “friend” feel free to fire at will.
The point that I was trying to get across (in my not so diplomatic way) was that if you’re about to have a career in coaching you should probably be spending more time with your athletes then posting and writing articles. I think the world has too many 10000000000rep power guys and not enough great coaches.I just would not like to see a wealth of knowledge and info (that duxx undoubtedly has) go to waste because of lack of practical experience.
Did you ever notice how Charlie doesn’t quote or reference a lot of books and research, but usually things that he noticed occurring while watching athletes perform.
Sorry for the long post. Keep up the good work duxx
Now say goodbye to the bad guy!
Go to hell you bastard
True, very true… spend more time working than philosophing around… true… true… but look at some of mine posts before I started volunteering and now… they are little more practical… also, different people, different learning methods… some learn from practice, some by reading and then trying… No one woke one morning as a expert… there is a learning curve… my eye is not so “sharp” as CF’s to see some of phenomenas yet, so I must quote other people’s work…
But we generally agree that more practice is needed…
Don’t get confused! From reading CF’s material and listening to him in seminars the man did pickup a lot from watching and learning from other coaches like the East Germans (Rest Intervals, using viruses to supercompensate), Tudor Bompa (Periodization), Gerard Mach (Mach Drills), and etc; however, the man also IMHO has read many of the “right” books and research. Why do you think he is so smart? The difference between Charlie and other coaches is his ability to question methods of other coaches and accept those methods (or parts of them) that make sense to him and discard the methods that don’t make sense. How do you think he learned those massage techniques? Watching BJ’s natural start motion and not changing it even though so-called expert American coaches said he was wrong? and the list goes on?
This is the greatest thing about CF is his ability to not let “so-called smarter people or those who have more credentials (i.e. degree’s and etc)” impose their will on him. Instead it was his way or the highway, and those (athletes) who chose the highway never made it back.
Duxx you should hear everybody but you don’t have to listen to them. What I mean is respect people’s opinions and take from those opinions what you think is right. Alternatively take advice from people you trust such as CF. You may find out that you were wrong in some cases later on, but without questioning people you will just accept the status quo and never grow!
P.S. So many coaches are still in the dark ages when it comes to some sports like hockey for example!
He’s thinking of the tale of the denatured virus that the EGs used to create a mild fever before a major comp to heighten nervous system response (remember how often people have a big performance right at the start of a cold?)
Ha. Yes. My last 55m PB came after extreme stomach problem (food poisoning) where I could barely eat for 2-3 days. Lost about 7-10lbs. PB’d in the 55m but ran about a 5 second non-PB in the 200. I need to find a way to combine food posioning and viruses.
