Well, if a small height difference caused a half metre increase it´s not crazy to think that if you are able to move your arms efficiently you will hit or surpase the 8m mark, since you will be moving your limbs towards the desired direction.
Actually taking off with a more bent leg and a lower body position allows you to have more time to apply more force at the same horizontal speed, since your leg lever is relatively shorter (the longer the radius the faster the movement in the extremum), but excesive lowering and bending will make you collapse, and that would destroy your jump.
As you said it looks like a very quick lowering and rising.
I dont know how to fix the arms and legs position, perhaps with lots of slow stuff. Mike will know it better.
yeah, i dunno, it works for me anyway. For the longest time all i watched was Pedroso, and he doesnt lower at all so i thought that was the best way, he just seems to continue running and then gets mad height…crazy…
then phillips and howe, jump totally differently. I think im more simular to them in that respect.
If you look at some videos its noticeable that pedroso and lewis had similar styles in the penultimate. I believe that they also achieved the same position as we discussed before, although they lowered their bodies in a smoother manner. This smoother manner is extremelly hard to achieve since you may make an extremelly long last step and overreach for the board. Perhaps this is why they popped those huge jumps and pedroso specially since he wasn´t that fast on the runway.
I will watch some videos to see if this statement is correct.
On the other hand dont get crazy with this, just stuck with what works right for you.
awesome dude, the first pedroso and second lewis vids ive never seen on youtube, and i always look on youtube haha…
carl lewis really did have an aggressive penultimate, very evident, pedroso on the other hand i can hardly see it. But certainly most of them do.
When i think back to all my big jumps, they were all like this, then for some reason i went away from thinking i needed to stay tall and smoother. Im excited for the season now, if i get this right with my speed now, babooooom!
I am also extremely excited with this since I am in the same situation as you, only that in a much modest range. Popped some really big jumps from really short approachs. The problem is now to put it all together with the high speed approach.
Sorry to jump in here but I have a question for you guys. What jump spikes do you use? How much benefit does a good LJ spike provide compared to something more generic like the ‘puma complete jump’ or a regular sprint or middle distance spike?
Long jump shoes are supposed to have more cushioning, support and a flatter angle. If you try to jump on those sprint spikes without any kind of cushioning you may end up injured.
I use some shitty pumas with a thick plate since where i live there arent spikes on sale.
No, just trained through. First meet in two weeks and may just run a 400, have a different season scheme (season ends in late november). This week did just some testing.
Did you jump yesterday?
the same as a sprinter, perhaps more knee / ankle / shin splints issues due to the pounding.
well, its turns out 7.48m, but she said 7.58m after i jumped, so im confused with that…i fouled my last 5 jumps all by 2-3cms, 3 of which were easy around 7.70m so overall for an early competition im really pelased with it…take off was very good on 4/6 jumps.
yeah man, i really owe you for really making me remember it…because i had lost it somewhere from indoors…It made a big difference, even in pop ups during warm, my take was so much faster because of it, and it worked during the meet…
ill be 20-30cm better shape in july than now, so thanks alot fiavala, and good luck to you too…
Ah you have found my pet peave. Every meet make sure the tape starts at 0cm and the officials are measuring from the correct end of the foul board (or even takeoff board:) ) Good job with the 7.48/7.58 though!
I have seen triple jumps from the 11m board meassured from the 13m one and long jumps from the beginning of the sand pit (thats totally ridiculous but happened).
I now realize that i have the same problem as you had. This year I have jumped only from very short approaches, sometimes pushing it throught the board and sometimes just coasting through the table. One would think that due to the higher speeds in the first type of approach i would jump farther, yet got the same results or even worser than the slow approaches. The “detail” is that when I coast/jog to the table i run really really tall, yet when I try to get some speed i remain lower and this also happened last years always in my jumps. The result of this is a stronger penultimate in the first one.
Last week I ran tall at max v for the first time ever and i had a crazy speed (used a fellow trainer as comparison).
I am now expecting to try to put all together and not wrecking in the attempt
