well yesterday I ran a 4.37 40yd dash hand timed. Im pretty damn exited as it blows away my 4.53 PR from 3 1/2 months ago.
my question is this. there was a pretty good wind at my back which i know assisted me. but how much can a wind actually help?
I also did heavy squats, power cleans and GHR 3hrs prior to that. In my mind i’d like to think the fatigue from the workout evened the wind out but im sure its not.
The weight session was on same day as the timed sprint or did you mean earlier in the weak?
If on the same day, you may have rode the c.n.s excitation wave (for want of better phrase). and I’m not suggesting that weights before sprints for a “potentiator” is all that special, I’m just suggesting that it may be less of a fatigue factor than if you would have done the same weights session the day before or several days earlier. (strangely enough.)
As a side note; For those that lift i still think weights after sprints on same day is generally better which I think would be in agreement with the Charlie Francis template/s.
It’s difficult to analize a hand timed short sprint for the person who is not holding the stopwatch. (apart from the athlete being timed by the same coach each time.)
I think wind could help from 0.05 to 0.1 at most in the 40. At NFL pro days, they sometimes run players with the wind and against the wind, and if I remember correctly the times are 0.1-0.2 difference. (thus compared to your no-wind time, a wind aided time could be 0.05-0.1 faster)
yea i did the weight session on the same day. i always thought it was run sprints before weights but i guess either works.
even tho the handtimed wasnt official it was the same person doing the timing as when i was running 4.56-4.6 so im happy with the improvement ive had
I want to thank everyone on this board who has helped me. i leave for camp march 9th, and without all the research and advice i’ve gotten on this board i probobly would still have been lifting like a bodybuilder + no lower body at all. i have improved every aspect of my abilities tremendously in about 8 months…thanks
I’ve never heard of this. Where did you hear of this taking place?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2002/individual_workouts.html
Go down to Matt Schobel the TE and Terry Jones the TE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeAngelo_Williams
If it’s in Wikipedia it MUST BE TRUE!!!
This is what I found after a quick search. I’m sure once this year’s pro days are done, you will be able to find more of these type of wind-times.
ur correct, all schools perform there test in this matter when there are wind issues.
.1-.2sec. can still make or break scouts opinions.
Im not even sure how hard the wind was blowing on that particular run but i most likely at least ran a mid 4.4 which would still be a PR. Ill just say 4.37 for the confidence boost.
I ran 3 more 40’s that day and clocked a 4.44, 4.56 with a stumble on my 3rd step and a 4.55 with only about a 30 sec rest from my last sprint. i was def fatigued on that run and i made that my last
i also ran 3 20s and clocked 2.66(not really warmed up) 2.58 and 2.53
I’ve only ever attended the Texas’ pro day and it’s done indoors so I don’t have a point of reference. It just seemed odd to me that a draftee would actually choose to run into the wind considering the implications on finances. I wouldn’t do it.
The 20’s times definitely sound like they would go with a sub 4.4. Here are some numbers from the NFL Scouting combine. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombinebypos.php?draftyear=2006&GenPos=WR&sortorder=LastName&order=ASC
Sounds very possible to run those times with a sub 2.6 20yd dash.
The 20’s times definitely sound like they would go with a sub 4.4. Here are some numbers from the NFL Scouting combine. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/rating...tName&order=ASC
Sounds very possible to run those times with a sub 2.6 20yd dash.
Thats whats up i feel alot more confident going into camp knowing that. even tho it doesnt affect football ability it does affect my mental. you only play as good as you feel
can you explain the ‘cns excitation wave’?
“C.N.S excitation” is a known referance.
“c.n.s excitation wave” is a phrase I made up that refers to a known detail…
When the central nervous system is stimulated in a workout for example, it can stay very stimulated for quite some time, even after the workout has finished the c.n.s is still “up”.
“wave” as in the surfer gets on a wave and rides it. (analogy.)
So when you have stimulated your c.n.s through say a few jumps, or sprints, heavy squat or what ever it is that you do, it can have a slight boosting effect on some of the next exercises or even in another session later in the day. Certainly there is less need for warm up in the later exercises, (not just a warmed up muscle issue), but also an allready “excited” nervous system factor.
Ofcourse you need to balance it out by not doing a huge volume of exercises so that you don’t drain the c.n.s either.
For some, this “wave” can actually spread over into the next day and potentiate a good workout there too, (I’ve felt it myself). But you could be asking for trouble if you do two heavy days in a row.
I would say my workout was pretty intense. what i did was
power clean 7x2
squat 90% 1rm for 4x3
manual GHR holding 25lb plate to my chest 3x6
maybe that doesnt seem all that intense but i felt fatigued. maybe it was only in the muscles and not the CNS