I think he could be fine. Again, one guy dropped a few hundredths after losing over 5% bodyfat. I don’t think it is that clean and clear.
Will just have to dissagree then. Show me one world class sprinter that is a little chubby, and I might belive you.
MLF, even when he was fast. Craig Pickering when he ran his first sub 6.6. Maurice was pretty much never as lean as some of the guys, though he was never chubby. He was about my leanness at his leannest, which goes to show you how much it matters.
There is a factor that niether of you seemed to have observed. Not everyone has the anatomical and physiological traits of the fastest sprinters. One sprinter might need 1% or 2% less bodyfat than his training partner, just to run the same speed as his training partner if everything else, was ‘almost’ equall.
Your photo is not bad, but not Bruce Lee either. Apart from the three month long foot injury that I have which has prevented me from training for three months (so I’m not in shape right now), you are no leaner than I was before my injury. About the same level of bodyfat as I was, definately no leaner, and yes, I was also scoffing on shit like chocolate and shite and cigarettes, on a daily basis, because of stress. And that I was reasonably lean on a piss poor diet, suggests to me I could get leaner. This is why I believe I, you (if you gave a crap), and the originator of this thread, could all get leaner still, and it wouldn’t be a bad thing, if we still held on to the amount of muscle mass needed. Which I don’t think a sprinter needs a huge amount of muscle mass.
I was going to mention to the guy who started this thread, that muscle mass can also increase lactic acid build up, but the amount he experiances, suggests to me, something more than just his large muscle mass. (200Ibs area.) Besides, I ran out of steam for making suggestions incase my comments get jumped on again.
1). I said I have not trained for three months.
I have done no running for three months, and for that reason I am in no way near my best shape. For that reason, I am not posting pictures. I’m not happy about my injury and I’m depressed about it, (Imagine not being able to train for three months, when you have trained for 22 years non stop.) This is one of the reasons I am visitng this website, so that I can still be close to the sport. But what I’m getting, is a load of argument.
I have no camcorder, or photo scanner, or any of that stuff anyway.
When I get back in shape, I will not hesitate to post pictures, and I will remember this thread and your ‘challenge’. Fine, but I’ll just have to wait till I can start training again, otherwise, how would a current photo do justice?
Who cares for the bodybuilder photo you have posted. He is under carefully propped stage lights, has put oil all over himself, is pumped up back stage before he walks on stage.
And how do you know that? He still did some training though, probably in the gym. I have not trained at all for three months. I like the way you say; ‘probably more than three’, like some sort of ‘comparison’ factor. I’m beginning to cringe actually.
Prob 7-8% or so. If you notice, the light source is pretty much the worst possible position and it drowns out a lot of the photo, which makes me look whiter and less defined, but you can see on one side the vascularity in the abs, which will give you a decent approximation of leanness.
Most people, when they see me in more appropriate lighting, think 4-5% or something crazy like that when it is not even close. I don’t think I have ever been below 6% and prob not much below 7%. People do not understand how lean that is.
Hopefully I can get that sort of definition at some point. I think the nature of training will help a lot. Going from 3 days/wk to 6 with the tempo sessions alone will change my body composition positively. I don’t think extremely low body fat is necessarily a good thing, but high is obviously not so great. I think body fat is a reflection of training in a small way. As long as I’m not chowing down on pizzas (although I am now. Off season ), my weight should regulate itself.
I don’t think its unattainable, I just think its not necessarily optimal (let alone crucial).
Let’s face it, there has never been a study that showed the accurate bodyfat % of all the sprinters in history who ran under 6.7 secs for 60meters.
Exactly why its not valid for you to say that syrus2001 must get under 7% bf in order to run 6.7 or better.
And because of that, you and the other guy: “Fogey fogel-face” seem to think I’m making stuff up.
You are.
Do you both believe he’ll reach his goal at his current level of bodyfat?
I can’t speak for fogey fattelson but I have no clue whether or not syrus2001 is capable at his current level of bodyfat.
Will just have to dissagree then. Show me one world class sprinter that is a little chubby, and I might belive you.
Chubby is irrelevant- one sprinter 7% bf or above who has run 6.7 or better invalidates your statement… more than one has been mentioned in this thread.
There is a factor that niether of you seemed to have observed. Not everyone has the anatomical and physiological traits of the fastest sprinters. One sprinter might need 1% or 2% less bodyfat than his training partner, just to run the same speed as his training partner if everything else, was ‘almost’ equall.
Might is the key word. In reality neither you nor I nor syrus2001 knows and this is why it is not accurate/appropriate for you to say he must get below 7% bf in order to achieve his goal.
Got my SPP download yesterday and watched it a few times. Good stuff. So much info packed into that video. I have more faith in my plan after viewing it.
Which download would be good next? Any recommendations?
I was thinking of either Van04, Edmonton 07 or rest and recovery. Obviously I’d like to have them all at some point but my budget is tight at the moment.
I haven’t heard people talk much about Edmonton 07, but I have heard tons about Van04, seems like that one is the must have download.
I went out to a local twilight meet to watch and volunteer today. Most of my friends and team mates were competing so I went and ended up measuring for the long and triple jump. Afterwards we were messing around and had a standing triple jump and standing broad jump competition.
My triple isn’t all that great, I hit 9m barely. My first jump is good and then I collapse when I hit and don’t go much further.
Standing broad was 3.12m. Technically thats a new pb up from 3m, but this was the first time I’ve ever measured it jumping in to a pit. I didn’t end up using the pit to my advantage as for some reason the only I can land is in a deep squat position, while my high/long jump friend kicked my ass with a 3.22m with his damn long jump landing skills.
I plan on doing a testing session on sunday to measure progress over the next months.
Starting off the season with pb’s in both the SLJ and 5*bound jump, so nothing was lost over the season. My legs are quite sore already from those grass sprints, i’ve never really done them before. They’re really quite different from the track. My energy seems to dissipate into the ground and I get less back forcing my muscles to work harder.
If that is 6%,
