You have a better feel for it than I do, of course, but I was thinking of separate stair-running, up however many flights takes 27 seconds.
I, personally, would hate to hit a flight of stairs coming off of a full-speed flat run, because I would probably kill myself, even though I’m not that fast.
Depends on the qualities of the individual girl. If she’s really explosive, you have the option of going S2L or concurrent (as per my 400m system) because any blunting of top speed will be fairly quickly restored when the emphasis reverts to high intensity and longer recoveries.
The last time I coached actively was for the Atlanta OG and I was asked to prepare a young woman for the 4x4.
She followed the system advocated in this thread: She ended up making both the 4x1 and 4x4 teams, which was a surprise to some.
The 4x1 side made the Olympic final and she ran both the heat and final on the backstraight and lost only 0.2sec on the fly to the US rep who, if memory doesn’t betray me, was someone named Devers.
Of course had they raced off the blocks, I think it would have been ugly but on the fly my lady’s weakness was pretty much removed. She also ran the fastest split for her 4x4 team.
your girl must have had some decent top end speed to hang with Devers! or was it her speed endurance? probably both?
hscoach – is the 62 sec girl the same 100/200 girl you referred to earlier?
vedette: no … the 62 sec girl is about the average 400m girl on my team. no on in particular.
I suppose the answer to your original question depends upon how many girls you have who are significantly faster than 62 at 400. Maybe a 62 girl really has no chance to make your relay. On my team, our slowest member of 4X400 is always at 62 or above, so it’s different for me. I would say that, at the high school level, 400 training wouldn’t hurt for the 200, especially if your training is mostly underdistance, high intensity. Depends a lot on the girl’s attitude and personality, too, I would think. As you know, 400 racing and 400 training are not every girl’s idea of a good time!
I was shocked when I saw the (supposedly official) FAT splits. But post Games it was said the splits could not all be relied upon. I would say that when you took Devers’ fantastic start away, she did come back to the pack a bit and maybe she fades slightly over 100m and the backstraight being the longest leg (potentially)…anyway, the point of the reference was to show that you can still do a good job over 100m and a better job over 200m on the type of concurrent program proposed in our thread here.
I think if I had known she was being considered for the 4x1 I’d have given much greater emphasis to her block work and initial acceleration phase, and given her more rest on the days she did her speed development sessions. In a time trial in Atlanta about 10 days before the meet she shocked some of the team coaches hitting a three-step walk up 200m in 22.4 (my time). The others got her at 22.1 and 22.2. So, she was ready. I think she had also (finally) found her rhythm on the very hard Atlanta track. A couple of weeks earlier in North Carolina she was in a “run-off” for the third 400 individual spot and she ran like a drain - just rubbish. She knew it too. But boy she made up for it in Atlanta.
This was a young woman who was pretty gritty normally, although she never was comfortabvle with the GPP stuff like 5x200 or 9x300. After Atlanta she coped much better and we got through the second cycle of GPP and she was ready to do something special for the coming summer, but then she decided she didn’t like the bitchiness of the scene and wanted to have babies. I was super disappointed she hung up the spikes, but she got the thrill of racing in front of a packed stadium three times at an Olympics and she ran virtual PBs every time she stepped on the track there, so it fulfilled her in the sports career sense. She figured the sacrifice was no longer worth it…
hscoach,
Just out of curiosity, do you have any way of using blocks in the hallway, or is there no way to do that?
HS Coach, thought you might be interested in this, last weekend we had a hs girl (freshman) run a 56 flat 400m @ Yale, I could not believe it until I spoke to her coach, fastest indoor time in our Sections history, man, what potential.:rolleyes:
I hate it when my first strong emotion of the day is ENVY. 
MSO: we can and will use blocks starts in the hallway in the near future.
Maybe make her into the best starter possible, too.
Teams that have everything obviously can’t work on everything all of the time. You can probably justifiably do more start work than other teams do, because you won’t be able to do some other things that they can do that take time away from starts. And that probably goes for a few other things, too.
If you’re going to be a bit behind on some of the things you can’t do, or at least have to compromise on, make sure you are ahead on the things you can do, especially since you can spend more time or effort on them than other teams can.
As usual, just my opinion.
well said. we just have to do what we are able to do.
4 x 400 METRES RELAY SPLIT TIMES
Derived from data kindly supplied by ST SPORTSERVICE GmbH (a service by Swiss Timing), the following listings give actual
and estimated times for all runners in the Beijing Olympic 4x400m relay races.
For the first and second legs, the time given is an estimate (e) based on photo-finish time at finish line by first leg runner before stagger unwinds. For the third and fourth legs times
are computed from photo-finish pictures of the baton holder at the finish line.
Men’s 4 x 400 Metres Relay
Final (Aug 23)
1, United States 2:55.39OR 0.336
2, Bahamas 2:58.03 0.297
3, Russia 2:58.06NR 0.220
4, Great Britain & NI 2:58.81 0.246
5, Belgium 2:59.37NR 0.166
6, Australia 3:00.02 0.212
7, Poland 3:00.32 0.180
8, Jamaica 3:01.45 0.196
Teams & splits
USA LaShawn Merritt 44.35e, Angelo Taylor 43.70e, David Neville 44.16, Jeremy Wariner 43.18
BAH Andretti Bain 45.92e, Michael Mathieu 44.04e, Andrae Williams 44.02, Chris Brown 44.05
RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.52e, Vladislav Frolov 44.64e, Anton Kokorin 44.34, Denis Alekseyev 43.56
GBR Andrew Steele 45.69e, Robert Tobin 44.78e, Michael Bingham 44.61, Martyn Rooney 43.73
BEL Kevin Borlée 45.43e, Jonathan Borlée 43.62e, Cédric Van Branteghem 44.44, Arnaud Ghislain 45.88
AUS Sean Wroe 46.07e, John Steffensen 45.26e, Clinton Hill 44.41, Joel Milburn 44.28
POL Rafal Wieruszewski 46.02e, Piotr Klimczak 44.54e, Piotr Kedzia 45.10, Marek Plawgo 44.66
JAM Michael Blackwood 45.60e, Ricardo Chambers 44.47e, Sanjay Ayre 44.86, Lansford Spence 46.52
First Round (First 3 (Q) & 2 fastest (q) to Final) (Aug 22)
Heat 1
1, United States 2:59.98 0.184 Q
2, Russia 3:00.14NR 0.187 Q
3, Belgium 3:00.67NR 0.264 Q
4, Australia 3:00.68 0.165 q
5, Poland 3:00.74 0.240 q
6, South Africa 3:01.26 0.268
7, Cuba 3:02.24 0.266
8, France 3:03.19 0.183
Teams & splits
USA David Neville 44.92e, Kerron Clement 44.50e, Reggie Witherspoon 44.63, Angelo Taylor 45.93
RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.58e, Vladislav Frolov 44.88e, Anton Kokorin 45.42, Denis Alekseyev 44.26
BEL Cédric Van Branteghem 45.52e, Jonathan Borlée 44.74e, Arnaud Ghislain 46.16, Kevin Borlée 44.25
AUS Joel Milburn 44.96e, Mark Ormrod 45.39e, John Steffensen 45.46, Clinton Hill 44.87
POL Marek Plawgo 45.90e, Piotr Klimczak 44.47e, Piotr Kedzia 45.95, Rafal Wieruszewski 44.42
RSA Pieter Smith 45.74e, Ofentse Mogawane 45.12e, Alwyn Myburgh 46.05, L. J. van Zyl 44.35
CUB Yuniel Pérez 45.95e, Yunior Díaz 45.92e, William Collazo 46.01, Omar Cisneros 44.36
FRA Teddy Venel 46.38e, Idrissa M’Barke 45.69e, Brice Panel 45.59, Richard Maunier 45.53
Heat 2
1, Great Britain & NI 2:59.33 0.250 Q
2, Bahamas 2:59.88 0.172 Q
3, Jamaica 3:00.09 0.241 Q
4, Germany 3:03.49 0.186
5, Trinidad & Tobago 3:04.12 0.196
6, Japan 3:04.18 0.195
7, Greece 3:04.30 0.160
8, Dominican Republic 3:04.31 0.176
Teams & splits
GBR Andrew Steele 45.28e, Robert Tobin 45.08e, Michael Bingham 44.50, Martyn Rooney 44.47
BAH Michael Mathieu 45.59e, Avard Moncur 44.94e, Ramon Miller 45.10, Andrae Williams 44.25
JAM Michael Blackwood 45.34e, Allodin Fothergill 45.14e, Sanjay Ayre 45.01, Ricardo Chambers 44.60
GER Simon Kirch 46.85e, Kamghe Gaba 44.41e, Ruwen Faller 45.61, Bastian Swillims 46.62
TRI Ato Stephens 45.17e, Jovan Toppin 45.92e, Cowin Mills 46.60, Stann Waithe 46.43
JPN Mitsuhiro Abiko 46.70e, Dai Tamesue 46.53e, Yoshihiro Horigome 45.33, Kenji Narisako 45.62
GRE Stilianós Dimótsios 46.86e, Dimítrios Grávalos 45.66e, Padeleímon Melahrinoúdis 45.15, Konstadínos Anastasíou 46.63
DOM Carlos Santa 46.50e, Arismendy Peguero 45.71e, Pedro Mejía 46.31, Yoel Tapia 45.79
Women’s 4 x 400 Metres Relay
Final (Aug 23)
1, United States 3:18.54 0.327
2, Russia 3:18.82 0.314
3, Jamaica 3:20.40 0.231
4, Belarus 3:21.85NR 0.306
5, Great Britain & NI 3:22.68 0.264
6, Cuba 3:23.21NR 0.273
7, Nigeria 3:23.74 0.330
8, Germany 3:28.45 0.189
Teams & splits
USA Mary Wineberg 51.00e, Allyson Felix 48.55e, Monique Henderson 50.06, Sanya Richards 48.93
RUS Yuliya Gushchina 50.62e, Lyudmila Litvinova 49.18e, Tatyana Firova 49.20, Anastasiya Kapachinskaya 49.82
JAM Shericka Williams 50.88e, Shereefa Lloyd 49.32e, Rosemarie Whyte 50.34, Novlene Williams 49.86
BLR Anna Kozak 51.98e, Irina Khlyustova 50.33e, Ilona Usovich 49.85, Svetlana Usovich 49.69
GBR Christine Ohuruogu 51.27e, Kelly Sotherton 50.35e, Marilyn Okoro 51.52, Nicola Sanders 49.54
CUB Roxana Díaz 51.11e, Zulia Calatayúd 51.17e, Susana Clement 50.47, Indira Terrero 50.46
NGR Joy Eze 51.46e, Sade Abugan 50.03e, Olouma Nwoke 51.53, Joke Odumosu 50.72
GER Jonna Tilgner 53.12e, Sorina Nwachukwu 52.60e, Florence Ekpo-Umoh 51.66, Claudia Hoffmann 51.07
First Round (First 3 (Q) & 2 fastest (q) to Final) (Aug 22)
Heat 1
1, Russia 3:23.71 0.338 Q
2, Cuba 3:25.46 0.194 Q
3, Great Britain & NI 3:25.48 0.214 Q
4, Germany 3:25.55 0.200 q
5, Ukraine 3:27.44 0.289
6, Poland 3:28.23 0.275
7, India 3:28.83 0.189
8, Japan 3:30.52 0.207
Teams & splits
RUS Yelena Migunova 51.80e, Tatyana Veshkurova 49.68e, Lyudmila Litvinova 50.32, Tatyana Firova 51.91
CUB Roxana Díaz 51.77e, Zulia Calatayúd 51.20e, Susana Clement 51.38, Indira Terrero 51.11
GBR Nicola Sanders 50.95e, Kelly Sotherton 50.57e, Marilyn Okoro 51.02, Christine Ohuruogu 52.94
GER Jonna Tilgner 52.90e, Sorina Nwachukwu 51.57e, Florence Ekpo-Umoh 50.94, Claudia Hoffmann 50.14
UKR Oksana Shcherbak 52.65e, Tatyana Petlyuk 52.56e, Kseniya Karandyuk 52.06, Natalya Pygyda 50.17
POL Monika Bejnar 52.99e, Jolanta Wójcik 51.72e, Anna Jesien 51.39, Grazyna Prokopek 52.13
IND Sathi Geetha 53.74e, Manjeet Kaur 51.43e, Chitra K. Soman 52.49e, Mandeep Kaur 51.17e
JPN Satomi Kubokura 53.59e, Asami Tanno 51.57e, Mayu Kida 52.72, Sayaka Aoki 52.64
Heat 2
1, United States 3:22.45 0.284 Q
2, Jamaica 3:22.60 0.220 Q
3, Belarus 3:22.78 0.250 Q
4, Nigeria 3:24.10 0.263 q
5, France 3:26.61 0.244
6, Brazil 3:30.10 -
7, Mexico 3:30.36 0.249
8, PR of China 3:30.77 0.234
Teams & splits
USA Mary Wineberg 51.03e, Monique Henderson 49.78e, Natasha Hastings 49.97, Sanya Richards 51.67
JAM Novlene Williams 50.46e, Shereefa Lloyd 50.07e, Bobby-Gaye Wilkins 50.94, Shericka Williams 51.13
BLR Yulyana Yushchanka 51.40e, Irina Khlyustova 50.37e, Ilona Usovich 49.93, Svetlana Usovich 51.08
NGR Sade Abugan 51.47e, Joy Eze 50.42e, Olouma Nwoke 51.83, Joke Odumosu 50.38
FRA Phara Anacharsis 51.76e, Thélia Sigère 51.75e, Solen Désert 51.20, Virginie Michanol 51.90
BRA Maria Laura Almirão 53.49e, Josiane Tito 52.60e, Emily Pinheiro 51.95, Lucimar Teodoro 52.06
MEX Ruth Grajeda 54.71e, Gabriela Medina 51.03e, Nallely Vela 53.01, Zudikey Rodriguez 51.61
CHN Han Ling 53.51e, Chen Jingwen 52.08e, Wang Jingpin 52.91, Tang Xiaoyin 52.27
From what I hear Joel keeps going from strength to strength with his run at last weekends NSW Champs in terrible conditions being very impressive.
KK do you know if he is still following a model similar to yours?
I think he tends to rely on competitions as special endurance during the domestic season a lot more than I ever did.
I saw a clip of his run in that state final and he was still going flat-out at least 120m into the race which I think was about twice as long as he should have gone hard for. I communicated that to his camp and we’ll see what happens. In Beijing he apparently said he went hard for the first 80m. It’s about “cunning running” this event, so he still needs to learn that and put it into practice.
Although the new track was dead from days of cold and rain, and maybe Joel used excess energy trying to warm up, the conditions during the 400 final were good for those guys.
There was a little tailwind going out and not much water on the track at the time because the rain was nothing more than glorified mist.
So Joel perhaps should have run a faster time. He may need to in order to beat Xavier ‘X-Man’ Carter on Feb 28 at Sydney’s big meet of the year.
I remeber Joel mentioned pre Beijing where he ran 44.9x that he was still working out how to run the race. Obviously with his rapid improvement, he is learning the best way to run it for himself.
After State Champs on the weekend, he mentioned he wanted to run the first 200m faster, so he may have got a bit too carried away after that first 60-80, especially with Thomas there.
He may not have that ‘cruising’ speed to relax and cruise down the back straight yet, and may have been pushing a little bit.
The last few seasons he has raced a lot (last season a 10.8, 21.4, 46.x on the one afternoon) in order to get ‘fit’
Advice is that he ran his 200m PB a fortnight earlier (following only 20mins after a 400m race) so he is already significantly faster at that distance now than this time in the Olympic year.
OSAKA 2007 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 4X400 UNOFFICIAL SPLITS…
4 x 400 Metres Relay
Final (Sep 2)
1, United States 2:55.56 0.177
2, Bahamas 2:59.18 0.167
3, Poland 3:00.05 0.186
4, Jamaica 3:00.76 0.181
5, Russia 3:01.62 0.177
6, Great Britain & NI 3:02.94 0.199
7, Dominican Republic 3:03.56 0.158
8, Germany 3:07.40 0.152
Teams & splits
USA LaShawn Merritt 44.4, Angelo Taylor 43.7, Darold Williamson 44.32, Jeremy Wariner 43.10
BAH Avard Moncur 45.2, Michael Mathieu 45.0, Andrae Williams 44.54, Chris Brown 44.41
POL Marek Plawgo 45.5, Daniel Dabrowski, 44.6 Marcin Marciniszyn 44.81, Kacper Kozlowski 45.15
JAM Michael Blackwood 45.4, Ricardo Chambers 44.3 Leford Green 44.50, Sanjay Ayre 46.54
RUS Maksim Dyldin 46.2, Vladislav Frolov 44.9, Konstantin Svechkar 45.31, Denis Alekseyev 45.20
GBR Andrew Steele 46.2, Robert Tobin 45.4, Richard Buck 47.08 (impeded by Gaba, who had fallen), Martyn Rooney 44.29
DOM Felix Sánchez 46.4, Yoel Tapia 45.3, Carlos Santa 46.54, Arismendy Peguero 45.32
GER Ingo Schultz 45.7, Simon Kirch 45.8, Kamghe Gaba 49.33 (fell), Bastian Swillims 46.51
First Round (First 3 (Q) & 2 fastest (q) to Final) (Sep 1)
Heat 1
1, Bahamas 3:00.37 0.163 Q
2, Jamaica 3:00.99 0.189 Q
3, Russia 3:01.07 0.170 Q
4, Great Britain & NI 3:01.22 0.212 q
5, Dominican Republic 3:02.49 0.171 q
6, Australia 3:02.59 0.183
7, France 3:04.45 0.162
8, Nigeria 3:06.04 0.187
Teams &splits
BAH Nathaniel McKinney 45.9, Michael Mathieu 44.9, Chris Brown 44.52, Andrae Williams 45.03
JAM Michael Blackwood 46.4, Ricardo Chambers 45.5, Leford Green 44.44, Sanjay Ayre 44.63
RUS Maksim Dyldin 46.2, Vladislav Frolov 45.4, Konstantin Svechkar 45.00, Denis Alekseyev 44.38
GBR Andrew Steele 46.4, Robert Tobin 45.5, Richard Buck 45.23, Martyn Rooney 44.17
DOM Carlos Santa 46.3, Arismendy Peguero 45.4, Yoel Tapia 45.80, Felix Sánchez 45.00
AUS Sean Wroe 45.7, Dylan Grant 45.4, Kurt Mulcahy 45.27, Mark Ormrod 46.15
FRA Mathieu Lahaye 46.9, Brice Panel 45.1, Fadil Bellaabouss 46.10, Leslie Djhone 46.34
NGR Bolaji Lawal 47.3, Godday James 45.0, Victor Isaiah 48.44, Saul Weigopwa 45.34
Heat 2
1, United States 3:01.46 0.160 Q
2, Germany 3:02.21 0.187 Q
3, Poland 3:02.39 0.205 Q
4, Japan 3:02.76 0.154
5, Trinidad and Tobago 3:02.92 0.188
6, Greece 3:05.65 0.168
7, Botswana 3:05.96 0.203
Teams &splits
USA Bershawn Jackson 45.7, Kerron Clement 45.3, Darold Williamson 44.58, Angelo Taylor 45.85
GER Ingo Schultz 45.9, Kamghe Gaba 45.9, Simon Kirch 45.30, Bastian Swillims 45.12
POL Rafal Wieruszewski 46.5, Witold Banka 46.2, Marcin Marciniszyn 45.01, Daniel Dabrowski 44.63
JPN Yuki Yamaguchi 46.8, Yusuke Ishizuka 45.3, Kenji Narisako 44.99, Mitsuhiro Sato 45.62
TRI Ato Modibo 45.5, Jovon Toppin 46.1, Jarrin Solomon 45.56, Rennie Quow 45.79
GRE Dimítrios Régas 47.3, Yeóryios Doúpis 46.2, Dimítrios Grávalos 46.26, Periklís Iakovákis 45.94
BOT Isaac Makwala 46.8, Obakeng Ngwigwa 46.1, Zacharia Kamberuka 47.00, California Molefe 46.09
WOMEN
4 x 400 Metres Relay
Final (Sep 2)
1, United States 3:18.55 0.176
2, Jamaica 3:19.73AR 0.208
3, Great Britain & NI 3:20.04NR 0.191
4, Russia 3:20.25 0.288
5, Belarus 3:21.88NR 0.220
6, Poland 3:26.49 0.152
7, Cuba 3:27.05 0.309
8, Mexico 3:29.14 0.192
Teams & splits
USA Deedee Trotter 51.2, Allyson Felix 48.0, Mary Wineberg 50.24, Sanya Richards 49.07
JAM Shericka Williams 50.5, Shereefa Lloyd 50.1, Davita Prendagast 50.18, Novlene Williams 48.93
GBR Christine Ohuruogu 50.6, Marilyn Okoro 50.9, Lee McConnell 49.79, Nicola Sanders 48.76
RUS Lyudmila Litvinova 51.1, Natalya Nazarova 50.0, Tatyana Veshkurova 49.79, Natalya Antyukh 49.40
BLR Yulyana Yushchanka 51.4, Iryna Khliustava 50.7, Ilona Usovich 49.97, Svetlana Usovich 49.78
POL Zuzanna Radecka 51.8, Grazyna Prokopek 50.6, Ewelina Setowska-Drick 52.58, Anna Jesien 51.44
CUB Aymeé Martínez 52.2, Daimí Pernía 51.8, Zulia Calatayud 52.20, Indira Terrero 50.85
MEX Zudikey Rodriguez 53.7, Gabriela Medina 51.6, Nallely Vela 53.20, Ana Guevara 50.66
First Round (First 3 (Q) & 2 fastest (q) to Final) (Sep 1)
Heat 1
1, Russia 3:23.49 0.228 Q
2, Belarus 3:25.14 0.209 Q
3, Jamaica 3:26.14 0.196 Q
4, Cuba 3:27.04 0.257 q
5, Nigeria 3:27.97 0.212
6, Ukraine 3:30.76 0.212
7, Romania 3:35.69 0.191
Teams & splits
RUS Yelena Migunova 51.5, Natalya Nazarova 50.5, Lyudmila Litvinova 50.65, Tatyana Levina 50.79
BLR Yulyana Yushchanka 51.5, Iryna Khliustava 51.1, Anna Kozak 51.52, Svetlana Usovich 51.08
JAM Shericka Williams 51.9, Anastasia Le-Roy 52.8, Davita Prendagast 50.66, Shereefa Lloyd 50.83
CUB Aymeé Martínez 52.7, Daimí Pernía 51.6, Zulia Calatayud 51.56, Indira Terrero 51.21
NGR Shade Abugan 51.9, Christy Ekpukhon 51.7, Olouma Nwoke 52.03, Sekinat Adesanya 52.34
UKR Nataliya Pygyda 53.0, Antonina Yefremova 52.7, Olga Zavhorodnya 52.78, Oksana Shcherbak 52.28
ROM Taisia Crestincov 54.8, Liliana Popescu 53.8, Elena Mirela Lavric 54.54, Ionela Tîrlea 52.47
Heat 2
1, United States 3:23.37 0.184 Q
2, Great Britain & NI 3:25.45 0.308 Q
3, Poland 3:26.45 0.229 Q
4, Mexico 3:27.14NR 0.195 q
5, France 3:29.87 0.210
6, Japan 3:30.17NR 0.204
7, Brazil 3:34.34 0.175
India DQ (170.8) 0.293
Teams & splits
USA Deedee Trotter 51.3, Monique Hennagan 50.1, Mary Wineberg 50.78, Natasha Hastings 51.16
GBR Lee McConnell 51.6, Donna Fraser 51.6, Marilyn Okoro 50.88, Nicola Sanders 51.34
POL Agnieszka Karpiesiuk 53.1, Grazyna Prokopek 50.7, Zuzanna Radecka 50.47, Anna Jesien 52.19
MEX Zudikey Rodriguez 53.3, Gabriela Medina 51.2, Nallely Vela 52.94, Ana Guevara 49.70
FRA Thélia Sigère 53.6, Marie-Angélique Lacordelle 51.7, Phara Anacharsis 51.96, Solen Désert 52.62
JPN Sayaka Aoki 53.5, Asami Tanno 51.6, Satomi Kubokura 52.88, Mayu Kida 52.18
BRA Maria Laura Almirão 53.9, Emily Pinheiro 53.3, Sheila Ferreira 54.05, Josiane Tito 53.06
IND Mandeep Kaur 54.8, Manjeet Kaur 54.9, Chitra K. Soman 54.39, Iyleen Samantha Lawrence Anthony not known
How much of a benefit is there to running a 400 prior to a 200m? Over the years i’ve noticed a pattern of athletes(at least mine) running pr’s or near pr’s after running a 400m earlier in the day. But that is rarely ever the case for 100m athletes.
As an example, we’ve seen athletes pull out of the 100 or 200 in order to focus on one or the other. And we’ve seen 100/200 doublers seemingly have a little trouble coming back to do the 200m after running rounds of the 100. Since there are very few(very few)200/400 doubles at major championships, we don’t really have a good frame of reference.
Michael Johnson, Marie Jose Perec, Cathy Freeman come to mind right away.
Some of the suggestions for this have been pretty simple. I’ve been told that it’s a simple matter of being warmed up. Which obviously makes sense. But I think it’s a little more going on than simply warming up. I’m sure 3-4 rounds of the 400m prior to the 200m did a little more than warm MJ & Perec up. I think there may be a little more going on physiological than that, but i’m no expert in that area. Just the ladies;)
Seeing as how the 100 & 400m affect the body in different ways(fatigue)would the 100m leave you with “less” going into a 200 than a 400m? Is there a physical adaptation that takes place after running the 400m whether a single race or rounds, prior to running a 200m that leads to an actual benefit in running the 200m.