Lactate Threshold Training

From “Training for 400m” by Steve Bennett

Early comp phase leading to olympics C Freeman

6x200 r=5-4-3-2-1 T=24.6&26.4 from rolling start.

Also 6x fly 100 walk back recovery in 10.8-11.3

Also 4x150 R=4 T=17.0 then rest 15 min then 4x120 in about 14 sec

also 2x300 r=7 t= 36.6-37.1 rest 15min then 200 23.9 r=5 then 200at 24.7 r=2 200at26.1rest 10 min then 3x120 relaxed.

Also Blocks to 350 at 43.9

Good information. Good post. :slight_smile:

I sometimes wonder if there is any method behind some of these sessions. Often it’s hard to “justify” the relevance of some work we see. It just appears random, although no doubt the coach who drew up the session would argue it’s validity in the grand scheme of his or her design.

On Freeman’s 2x300+3x200 session (above) the first 300 is on pace to approx 50-flat (or slightly faster, depending on the type of athlete coming to the 400m) and so her backup in 37.1 is impressive off 7mins. You could argue that is a tremendously specific test of speed endurance at a level for 400m.

Similarly the 3x200 tagged on the end (not counting her tempo 120s) of that session starts with 23.9 which is spot-on for a 50-flat 400m and finishes with a 26.1 backup 200m, again spot-on for the comehome 200m in a 50-flat 400m.

So if she was doing most of her training around a 50-flat standard, it’s little wonder she could pop out 50-flat any time she liked.

How she got to 48.6 in Atlanta is another matter, but a volume of work over the years set at 50-flat schedule is a serious base from which to ultimately launch into an even more impressive 400m time.

Yes It is hard sometimes to figure out what is exactly happening with different sessions.

That is why I have so much trouble when looking at other peoples programs. Maybe it is just me, but I want to know everything. There may be small details that are left out of a general overview, but these details may be the main reason certain sessions are done or not done.

What sessions were performed in the days leading up to key sessions and what was done on the following days?

Sometimes the difference isn’t in the program as things like training partners, weather, ANS control etc play a big part in success. Also the home life of the athlete and the level of stress etc play a role. To create the perfect athlete you need a near perfect environment and you won’t see this unless you go visit them as these things are not seen in workout logs.

WHAT you say is definitely 100% true. But in this instance I was thinkign more of the direction of a written program and a justification of the logic involved in the type of work and the planning of reps, sets, intensity, density blah ad infinitum. :slight_smile:

Planning Training and Racing for Quality 400 Meters
Presented at the IX International Track and Field Coaches’ Congress,
Santa Monica, California, July 30, 1984
By Lee Evans
There are many ways in which to help your athletes to train and to run quality 400 meters races. Coaches look for athletes who can win, become local and national champions, Olympic Champions and World Record holders. I believe the first important thing to do when working with a young athlete is to find out what It Is that he wants to accomplish. What are his goals? Does he want to be the fastest in his town? In his state? In his country? The fastest in the World? Before I would work seriously with an athlete I must know what he really wants to do with me helping him. What does he really want to do with his ability in whatever event he wants to compete in? Once this is defined, I can then set a course that I feel we can work together to help him reach his goal. Some athletes like being 3rd or 4th in a race; they do not like the pressure of winning.
As coaches we need to find the athletes who can accept the pressures of being a winner, to accept the pressures of being the best In his event and then to help them to achieve’ this. Hopefully everyone wants to be a champion. Many say that but they are not serious about it. Within the first month of working with an Individual I will find out how serious the athlete really Is In terms of whether he wants to do the work which Is required to become a World Champion or to be just a local competition winner. I will then plan a training schedule accordingly.
I am talking about the 400 meters because this is where I have had a great deal of experience and success. Most of you know my background. People ask me, “How Is It that your World Record has lasted so long-i6 years now?” At first I shrugged my shoulders; but then as I reflected back I realized that I really love to run. I will run anything. I was in love with my coach, Bud Winter of San Jose, who was guiding me in my running career. This person was like a God to me. Anything he said I would do. I believed in him.
What would I look for in an athlete if he really wants to do well? How much dedication does he have? How much respect does he have for me personally? If the athlete says, “I like this guy,” I will help him with his training schedule. How the athlete respects his coach and how well he listens to what the coach has to say is most Important. I have had coaches for whom I had very little respect. I was very fortunate to have a college coach whom I was able to believe in. Somehow he was able to instill in me a strong feeling for him personally. That made me want to compete harder not only for me but also for him.
As a coach you might want to find a way to communicate with an athlete so that he can produce his best. It may be human nature that makes it possible for an athlete to do better in competition not only for himself but also for someone else who is very important to him. This relationship with my coach made me work harder not only to be successful for myself but I also wanted success for him. So it is important in coaching an athlete that you respect him as an athlete and that he respects you as a coach, and together you work toward the ultimate, which is to be a champion to set a World Record.
Right In the beginning I will ask an athlete write down his goals. Then I would say, “So you want to be a winner.” Now write down all the reasons why you want to be a winner. “Some athletes will give as many as 20 reasons. Others might only give 2 reasons. Some athletes really do not want to win. They might give a reason such as “it will feel good to win,” or “I want to win a medal.” I have had athletes who have indicated only one reason why they want to win. When coaching I try to give these athletes many reasons why they might want to win. This is the way I competed. Every day I would give them different reasons why they should want to be successful. Every day I would invent reasons to keep them interested. As coaches we need to find as many reasons as we can for athletes to want to be successful. When I was in Africa it was very easy to find reasons why the athletes there should want to do well in their events. It might mean scholarships to America. It meant moving up in their community, country socially and economically
There are many ways to become a winner. Some of the goals we set together with athletes might be to go undefeated during the current season. Each year beginning with 196 I would write in my diary, “I want to go undefeated this year.” As a coach I would try to get athletes to keep a diary in which they can list their goals and objectives for the season and I would try to I them stick to them.
I would develop a training program beginning in September which we would try to stick to so we could develop a solid base from then …. would begin with long distance runs. This is the time when you need to work with the athlete’s head to get him psychologically prepared to become a winner in June or July. I would get them to believe that it is easy to win because most athletes do not run the whole race to win.
I was In Africa for seven years and since I have returned I have not seen a 400-meter runner who runs the whole race. They might run 395, 396 or 398 meters. When I was running I would run 402 or more meters. This is how to win the big important races. You must teach your athletes this principle very early. Sometimes it takes nine months to get them to believe in this. The things I want them to do in July I have them working on in September. Sometimes I need to really harass them about the many small things, but this one is the most Important. Running the entire distance and beyond it will make your runners winners. I try to teach them that during the last three strides they must Push! Push! and Dip! They must push hard at the ankles and in the last stride drop the head and bend at the waist and throw the hands back and to go past the tape to 401 or more meters. I learned this from my coach. He would really harass us about this. We would continually rehearse this.
The athlete may have practiced all the many little things he must learn to be a winner, but he must work on this especially when it is important at the end of the season in the big races. Everyone is running at their best and they are all tired. You know they are all tired and the competition begins to slow down near the end of the race almost to a stop. In such cases in my experience I would say, “Thank you,” because they made it easy for me to win during the last three strides.
Another important thing, which helped me win, was Mental Preparation. I was a little different than most of the others. On the night before the big competitions I would be in bed by eight o’clock in the evening and I would stay in bed in the morning after a good night’s sleep. In the morning I would sit up in bed, close my eyes and practice visualization. I would see myself winning the race from each of the lanes one through eight. I would see myself run every step of the race. I would see myself have a perfect start. I would see myself run the first 100 meters fast. I would see myself run the second 100 meters with the longest stride possible, and In the third 100 meters I would feel myself run as fast as I had ever run In my life. In the last 100 meters I would see myself maintain the speed, which I had generated during the third 100 meters. I would run this in my mind over and over again at least fifty times. I would not just visualize the race; I would begin from when I would leave my room and I would go downstairs or take the elevator. I would get on the bus. I would go to the warm up track and I would go through my warm up. I would do four laps of warm up and I would stretch. I would do 3 x 100 meters and about three-fourths speed. I would make certain I would not be diverted by anything such as a girl friend or by buddies who might come over to ask how I was doing. I would always tell them I would talk to them after the race. My head was on straight and I tried to keep it that way. By concentrating on what I had to do I knew that I could win and set a record. I set eight World Records during my racing career and each time I did I can remember going through this mental practice, spending the whole day In my room. In fact it became very boring and I did not like it at all and I was glad when the race was over with. I would just sit or lie there and concentrate on how I would push hard out of the blocks, I would have a long low lead arm. I would make up half the stagger- distance on the runner In front of me during the first 50 meters and then I would catch up with him and on and on and on. I would think and concentrate all day and when I would actually go to the stadium I still had this mental set. When the starter would shoot the gun I felt I was detached and no longer a part of the race. I would lay off the shoulder of the runner In front of me and try to hold on to this runner who is running like mad and I was the one who was running like mad, but I was not there any more. I am in another place observing, the same as a spectator observing. Perhaps I placed myself in a hypnotic trance (I really did not know what it was) but I knew I could do that when I could take the time to do it. I did It out of the competitive desire, I wanted to win very badly because It was something I had worked very hard to get. I wanted to win the race and I wanted to set a record so I spent 8 to 10 hours I knew my opponents did not do to prepare as I did.
So mental preparation is important and I tell athletes this. You just don’t show up for the race and Just say you are going to run as fast as you can. You can develop a certain magic, perhaps a spiritual oneness of mind-body coordination. To me, this is what preparation is physically and mentally. This gave me confidence by having done everything I could have done to be ready for when the important event came. You have respect for your opponents and for your coach, and you have the confidence of and from your coach, so that when you step to the line you are ready to take on anyone. I always believed I could wipe out all my opponents. I watched most of them in practice and I knew I had done a lot more than they had to get ready. I practiced doing 30 push-ups and 30 sit-ups daily before practice. I practiced each section of the race. I practiced the last few steps and the dip at the tape and beyond it daily.
You just have to get your athletes to believe and to do more than their opponents so that they feel they have an advantage. This helps especially during the last 20 meters when their arms get tired but yours don’t get tired. Everyone is training and they are all in great condition but you must feel you have done more of the many little things and better. All this helps right through the last dive for the tape. The one who wants it the most is the one who has worked for it and has this confidence. If one approaches a race with any doubts, it is all the little things no one else has done that might make the difference. I knew they would be tired and I would be tired but I had that little bit extra. This is the psychology of being competitive.
Now I would like to talk about the value of even pace racing for the 400 meters. There has been quite a lot of discussion concerning this. I personally feel that the entire 400-meter race is anaerobic-run in oxygen debt all the way. I have run the first 100 meters of the race and felt winded, but as I was accustomed to running in an oxygen debt condition I learned to ignore it. By running 500’s at least once a week you can learn to run a quality race under this condition. You can still work through the race since you will have trained doing these strong 495’s since February. I really did not like doing 500’s but when my coach said do 3 x 500 meters I would go out and do them the best I could. Athletes need to be reinforced with all these positive things, which will help them so that they believe in what they can do. I believe there should be only a one second differential between the first 200 meters and the second 200 meters in a quality 400-meter race. I have experimented with myself and with athletes I have coached using many variations-running as fast as possible from the beginning hanging on to the end; and I have experimented with running conservatively for the first 200 meters. For an athlete who’s best 200 meters out of blocks is 22.0 I would convince this runner to run his first 200 at about 23.2 to 23.5; and if he has been training correctly he can come back with another 23 flat. Even if he comes in with a 24 it is fine because if we continue to work on his speed to get his 200-meter time down, his 400-meter time will come down also.
In running the 200 meters under control, the fatigue does not build up as rapidly in the body. The fatigue is delayed to where he might feel “the bear” in his muscles coming into the last 50 meters-even when running evenly. When John Smith ran 44.5 for 440 yards in 1971, he ran his first 220 yards In 22.2 and the second 220 yards In 22-3. In running that kind of a race he was in total control of the race at 270 yards. It even looked as If he was accelerating. He was not accelerating, he was maintaining the same speed he was running from the start and he kept It all the way through.
As a young runner at 18 years of age, the first time I ran 46 1 ran 23 flat and 23.1. All of the fast 400 meter races began with Mike Larabee, gold medallist In 1964, myself In 1968, John Smith, etc. Anyone can go out to burn the first 300 meters in 32 seconds and then tie up. I can do that today (maybe 33.5) but fatigue will set in and I will finish slowly.
This is what many American 400 meter runners have been doing during the past few years, and I have been telling them if they go out In 21.2 when their best time is around 45, it is not very smart to come back with 24 seconds. It just sets up the race perfectly for a competitor to go by you in the last 50 meters. Thus they can be defeated with a 45.1 or 45.2. If a runner can run 45.4 the smart thing to do is to go out at about 22.3 or 22.4. In this way he can start racing at the 200-meter mark. The race starts at the 200-meter mark. Get to the 200 meters in a relatively good position-you should be able to reach out to touch the leader at 200. Let him have no more than 3 meters but take it back in the third 100 meters. On the back straightaway you should be either about one step ahead or one step behind. After running the first 200 meters under-control you will be able to maintain the speed you build up in the third 100 meters into the finish. This is what it takes to win the big races. Any good finisher-the one who can run the last 40 meters well, can Win. The winners look like they are making a fast move in the last part of the race but they are only maintaining their speed.
To win the big races it takes a person who can lift during the last part of the race. It takes a lot of mental preparation to be able to lift during the last 40 meters of a quality race. My best time for 200 meters before Mexico City was 20.4. 1 ran the first 200 of the 400 meters there in 21.4 so I was within one second of my best 200-meter time. I came back during the second 200 meters In 22.4, but to me that 22.4 was agonizing because I was braking the whole time. I wanted to race, I really wanted to go faster’ This was the Olympic Games and I wanted to run as fast as I could right away but It took a lot of discipline and a lot of concentration not to go faster. When I saw the 200-meter mark I knew that was the time to race as fast as I could. I ran the third 100 meters as fast as I could go. By racing the third 100 meters the other runners will come back to you if you just do not panic. The main thing to be thinking about is high knees, for- ward arm drive toward the finish line, and relaxation. Running the last’100 meters was just like having a tape recorder in my mind repeating over and over-High Knees! Forward Arms! Relax! Relax! Relax! This is what Coach Bud Winter coached into us-Tommy Smith, John Carlos and me. You learn to do this right through the finish and beyond with practice. I never really liked doing 500’s but when my coach said do 3 x 500 meters I would go out and do it, and In the long run it certainly worked for me.
Here is a sample excerpt of his training log:
University of Washington 400 meter training for the year 2001
Monday:
3 X 300 meters/ 3 X 100 meters

  1. 300m- 1:00 min- 100m 3:30 Interval
  2. l00m-1:30min-300m 3:45 Interval
  3. 300m-1:00min-100m
    Tuesday
    6 X150 meters/5 X 50 meters
  4. 150- :40sec-50m 2:00 Interval
  5. 150m-:40sec-50m ETC
    Wednesday
    2 X 500m/8 X 50m
  6. 500m-:35sec-4 X 50m 6:30 Inteval
  7. 500m-:35sec- 4 X 50m
    Thursday
    10 X 100m with 30:sec. Interval
    Friday
    Race 2/2/2 Sprint 50 meters jog 50 meters
  8. 2 laps 50 meters 4:30min Interval
  9. 2 laps 50 meter 4:30min Interval
  10. 2 laps 50 meters
    Monday
    4 sets of 150-200-100 walk 4:30 between sets
    Tuesday
    3 X 300 meters-I X 500 meters-4 X 50 meters
    Wednesday
    3/2/1 = 3 laps 50’s walk 1 lap interval-2 laps 50’s walk lap interval lap
    50’s

THE MAN ON TOP IS TOMMIE SMITH

Bud Winter coached at San Jose State University from 1944 - 1974 and was responsible for the legendary “Speed City” in the mid 1960’s.
In total, he produced 1 NCAA Championship, 49 NCAA records, and 27 Olympians including great athletes like Tommie Smith, Lee Evans, and John Carlos, just to name a few. He also coached Greece’s Chris Papanicolaou, the first man to pole vault 18 feet.
His basic approach to sprinting was a simple 8 step plan:

  1. Use high knee action
  2. Use good foreleg reach
  3. Run high on toes
  4. Have good arm action
  5. Maintain good forward lean
  6. Bound forward, not up
  7. Run tall, with back straight
  8. Be relaxed, with loose jaw and loose hands
    Many thanks to Gary G. from Scotia, NY, for providing the information below.
    Here is an overview of Bud Winter’s program. I consider myself kind of an expert on Bud Winter as I studied all about him and have read his two books. I also have met John Carlos and Bud Winter, who was ahead of his time and many coaches have taken bits of his program and some quote him often.
    Here is his “sprint” program, I will send his endurance 400 program on another email.
    Basically, he classified his sprinters as either the sprint type or the endurance type. Tommie Smith never ran farther than 320m in training but set WR’s at 200m, 440 yards and 400m. Here is his program:
    Fall:
    4 weeks of x/c running and strength games, every sprinter would start with 1 mile and by the end of the month they would run 10 miles
    without stopping.
    Off Season:
    Intervals would start; slowly at first, every month faster for 5 months, here is an example of a week:
    Monday - 10x 100 on grass, 100 walk, (they started @ 15 down to 11 after 5 months.)
    Tuesday - 6x 200m, with 200 walk ( started @ 30, 23 in 5 months)
    Wednesday - 3x 320m, 15 minutes rest between (started @46 to 38)
    Thursday - Repeat Monday
    Friday - Starts and Finishes @ 150m x 5 (Winter would blow whistle 4 times and group would speed up and slow down, at tape they would practice leans.
    Saturday - Test Day, 2x 60 yards, 1x 165 yards, 1-2x 320m
    Sunday - Jog or rest
    During this time period they would do drills every day, when they were in top shape they would do what Winter called a “relaxation test”, almost like Charlie Francis’ flying 20’s, they would run 9/10 effort over 30 yards with running start, timed, idea was to show the sprinters that you run faster with 9/10’s speed and not all out.
    In addition, after the main workout, they would do what they called “killer dillers”, you start at the common finish and sprint out for about 25 meters, Winter would blow his whistle and the sprinters would slow to almost a walk, he would then blow the whistle again to speed up, this would go on until the 300 mark, then everyone would TRY and sprint home, if they could.
    They also would do starts every day but Monday at 20-40 yards, 6 total.
    In-Season: Faster, shorter reps, quality.
    Monday - Choose 1:
    10x 100, no time, 100 walk -or-
    3-4 laps of wind sprints -or-
    2x 275m, no time
    Tuesday - 3x 200m cut-downs, 200 walk, (Winter felt if you could do 25-24-23, you were ready for a 47 400m) Late season, just go out hard for 50m, float, 100m, sprint 50m, 3x.
    Tuesday - Time Trial Day: 2x 60 yards, 1x 320m, hard but not all out.
    Thursday - Starts and finishes or if big Meet on Saturday, then REST.
    Friday - REST
    Saturday - MEET
    Sunday - REST or jog

Angelo Taylor (the winner) fights out the 07 US 400 finish with LaShawn Merritt

DeeDee Trotter wins the 07 US 400 title

Dee Dee Trotter won her first U.S. outdoor title in a lifetime best 49.64 seconds. South Carolina’s Natasha Hastings was second in a college-record 49.84 and Mary Wineberg third at 50.24. Trotter came from third on the final turn to draw away.

Richards, who ran under 50 seconds nine times last year, finished at 50.68.

“I just lost my thinking,” Richards said. “I thought I was already on the team and didn’t fight for that third spot, so I’m really disappointed. But I still have the 200, and I’m going to come out and win that.”


Wineberg (I think that is her in the background of this shot) is “sitting” back on her right “hip” and she has “dropped” her left hip. Probably just a lack of strength, manifesting in collapse or at best instability of the pelvic girdle area. But she’s on the team, good on her. And she only had to beat the reigning female world athlete of the year (Richards) for the last individual spot! :slight_smile:

KK,

What exercises/drills would you recommend as being the most effective to address this “collapsing” at the hip?

Does anyone have the splits for sanya richards 48.70?

I think it has to start with awareness, because plenty of very good sprinters cannot “feel” their position.

So initially it means the athlete works one-on-one with someone (a physio or the coach) who watches from in front and from behind to see what the athlete’s pelvis/hips are doing. If there is lateral tilt, then call out to them while it is happening and see if they can pull it together.

From a training aspect, Charlie would know more, but I would say a lot of the problem also comes from a lack of specific strength - down around the very lower abdomen, around the pubis area.

So the athlete could/would benefit from doing single leg raises from a supine position. I think it was probably Charlie who advised me that way in the mid 80s.

The athletes lays on his back in a straight line, hands by his/her sides.

One heel is placed upon a small block or stairway step. That leg is kept perfectly straight.

The other leg is bent (at the knee of course) and raised toward the waist to simulate a high-knee lift in sprint pose.

The raised knee has the effect of tilting the pelvis to a neuteral (flat) position which is good.

The action then is to raise the core (torso) and legs off the floor so that only the heel of the straightened leg and the upper back (shoulder blades) are in contact with the floor.

Hold that position for about 10-seconds (or build up to that) and do 3 sets of 10 reps on each leg.

The other thing sometimes causing instability can be a weakness in the glute(s). Squatting will help in a grose way, but I think Long Hills (10-degrees or thereabouts) where the athlete can get into a good, fairly race-specific running action and just hold it under fatigue of both distance and ascent should work the glutes extremely well.

A combination of the straight-leg raises, squats and hills, plus close technical monitoring and instant feedback for the sprinter should help a lot. kk

Thanks kk. As always very helpful :slight_smile:

I thought this would be the best place to post this since this thread is apparently the go to place for info on 400m. Ive currently come to the end of a very disappointing season where my training was all over the place and my 400m was rubbish as a result. I was wondering whether anyone could point me in the direction of a good three day setup (I wish I could do more but study/job makes this impossible).
In Aug 2005 i did my PB of 49.8 off 2 days training per week but havent got anywhere near that time since (50.9 in 2006). Ive read and digested much of the info on this thread but was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction with regards to what should be the absolute focus of my limited training.

Kind Regards

Scottyo

Maybe you should post your weekly schedule- work or school, age etc so people can know what time you can spend- even to do cals at home between sessions. Include travel time to your training track.

Ok here goes…

Im 23, Im a trainee lawyer. My job (starting sept) will involve working 9-6 monday-friday meaning I will get home at approx 6.30 and then to the track for 7.15 on weeknights.
Due to additional learning requirements for the job, some evenings will be taken up with study which will vary. Im working on the assumption that Ill be able to make either a monday or tuesday as well as a thursday to get to the track. I could squeeze in cals or bodyweight exercises at home on the other evenings (could manage an hour or so).
Saturdays will vary (may or may not be required to work) but sundays completely free.

As you can imagine, this schedule makes planning difficult!! Any help would be great

Regards

OK, I’ll have a go at this as I had an athlete who was in similar situation to yours. The differnece is that he was a 400 hurdler, but hopefully some of the principles will apply. For now we’ll stick to GPP.

Iniatially I had him on the following plan with Sundays as the start day for each week.
Su: (am) Weights (pm) Short Jumps/Speed/Tech
Mo: Tempo Endurance (ExtT>>IntT)
Tu: Weights
We: Long Jumps/Tempo (ExtT>>IntT)
Th: Weights
Fr: Hills
Sa: Off
Monday and Wednesday were done in the evening. Tuesday and Thursday he would get up early and do this prior to work. Fridays were done either in the morning or on his lunch break. His employer was a little flexible. I gave him Saturday off as he hadn’t trained more than 5 days a week in college.

After 1-2 cycles of this sequence we switched to the following with Saturday being Day #1.
Sa: ExtT/Circuit
Su: (am) Weights (pm) Short Jumps/Speed/Tech
Mo: Tempo (ExtT>>IntT)
Tu: Weights
We: Long Jumps/Tempo (ExtT>>IntT)
Th: Weights
Fr: Hills
Since Sunday was the only high intensity day, going 7 days a week worked fine. He also felt alot better on Sundays after the relatively light Saturday tempo session which really wasn’t much more than an extended warm-up and took @60min. Sunday afternoons usually took @2 hours. Monday and Wednesday evenings usually went @1.5 hours depending weather. If it was cold and wet, everyone (including me) wanted to keep things moving.

I know that this is outside of the CF training philosophy, but this person’s schedule required flexibility. Additionally, he would chew up all types of tempo work and ask often ask for more. Towards the middle of GPP he did 2x10x200m in 30sec. w/45sec and 2:30min recoveries.

At any rate the program seemed to work pretty well as he dropped his time from 50.80 in 1995 to 49.73 in 1996. Hope that this helps.

Thank you athletics coach! Looks like something along these lines would fit in well with my schedule. May have to drop one of the weights sessions though. Cant believe the tempo session that your athlete did, thats pretty awesome stuff.

Cheers

If I have time I will try to come up with a “modernized” version of this.

As for the volume of ExT, there were a few factors at play. The athlete was used to training very hard, way too hard in my opinion. His college coach had to give them 2 days off on the weekend so that they might recover. Still there were constant injuries. This guy had avoided them for the most part, but his mechanics were pretty poor and I was only able to change a portion of that as he was 24 when I started with him. He also had people chirping in his ear that he needed to work harder. Friends, former teammates, family, they came at him from all directions.

Since he had run 21.3sec. for 200m, 30secs. was a piece of cake, even in flats. Also keep in mind that the progression began at 2x5x200m and worked it’s way up over the span of 7 weeks. This is a little high on the CF scale of ExT, but not TOO bad. He was also quite surprised at how easy it was in the end.

After running his pb, he bolted to another coach for a couple of years and went back to mid-50.0’s. They used to work the crap out of him.

Going into the 2000 Games he came back for a couple of months and I tried to get him cleaned up. At that point though, the damage was largely done and while he improved, he never went sub-50sec again.

After Sydney we sat down and he said, “I should have listened.” I now use him as a reference with athletes who get squirrelly. Interesting I ran into another former athlete from my group who left because she didn’t like the speed emphasis and lack of gut busting training. She apologized, which makes sense since she never went to Nationals again after leaving. :frowning: I just shrugged.

DeeDee may be the only 400m runner in the US who does NO tempo work (ExT or InT), at least according to her coach. The fall is strength oriented with some speed (mostly drills and acceleration) and endurance work on a 250m hill.

On the otherhand, Natasha Hasting’s coach, Curtis Frye, beats the hell out of his people with various forms of tempo, mostly InT, though he does through some speed in. What’s interesting is how his people all bolt as post-grads :rolleyes: