ok i didn’t want to start some kind of stupid back and forth war by my OP, i didn’t include your name after all, it’s just a damn funny & disrespectful quote… so please just re-evaluate how you speak to others & your own performance. that’s all i have to say.
adarqui, I think the issue here isn’t yours or james’ stats but the methods and claims made by Jay Shroeder. In a previous post it seemed as though you were defending his reputation.
Do I take it you employ his methods?
I believe what James was getting at is that Schroder’s methods yield normal, if not less than normal results using you as an example.
Although I’ll admit, a 40" running vert is somewhat impressive. Can you attribute these results to Shroeder’s methods?
Regardless of his claims, this forum is dedicated to the pursuit of speed and most members discredit his methods as less than optimal for that very same purpose.
for example, squatting near max for singles or lunging submax daily for reps, for weeks… that i would attribute entirely to my vert & speed gains, though i don’t sprint much… with this kind of training, you might go through periods of staleness (even though you try and perform at peak), but then out of nowhere you are at peak/PR levels, with an insane amount of aggression… i’d say it’s one of the best ways to tap into Verkhoshansky’s description of the “innate reserves”… really tying the emotional & neuromuscular aspects together… so i think Schroeder is onto something here.
the only problem with that training, is that i like being lighter, and it’s just impossible with high frequency + high intensity training… I could eat like an anorexic schoolgirl and still maintain weight on it…
i’m not at all a fan of his LDISO protocols or his outlandish claims.
i’ve used high frequency protocols with a small amount of the athlete’s ive trained, and it worked like a charm every time… guys who are much stronger than me i might add.
so i think jay for that one… but 151 lb on his bench in 34 hours = LoLLooLL.
adarqui, I think the issue here isn’t yours or james’ stats but the methods and claims made by Jay Shroeder. In a previous post it seemed as though you were defending his reputation.
right i never planned on this being a stats war… but Mr Smith thought it would be funny.
i don’t promote schroeder at all though… i just don’t like the Eastern Bloc Gurus who heil from the west, who insult the west…
I haven’t had much experience with this scheme. In terms of predictable results it might be difficult to plan peaks around this method and the staleness produced may affect the CNS more harshly then the muscular system, but for overall performance it might work, I really can’t say or judge.
Working the muscular system at a high frequency and intensity works quite well. I know Charlie’s GPP methods will include 6days/wk of muscle work alternating hills and legs weights and circuits. But frequent high CNS days can be counter productive. I think this is where the difference lies.
Amen brother. The West seems to be doing fine so why criticize it so harshly. I’d like to see Shroeder go to US track and field championships and tell those athletes that there Western ways are producing sub par results.:eek:
To hit back at the Muscular vs CNS training, there is a lack of eastern athletes to have run sub 10 in the 100m, but in terms of weightlifting and throws they’re on top. Genetics yes, but this could also be indicative of training methods.
Can anybody give me feedback on Evosport? It seems that some Evo-sport stuff is associated with Jay Schroeder (who signs himself as CEO of ARP-Wave), but that there are other guys with the name Evo-something who are not associated with him.
Hi. I know this is rehashing a very old topic, but who the hell is James Colbert? Does anyone have any idea of who he has trained or anything along the lines of field experience?
I thought Schroeder was bad, but this guy might even be worse.
Edit: If anyone can verify any of those outlandish & ridiculous claims made by Jay Schroeder, I would greatly appreciate it. I have been trying for over 2 years to get one of my athletes to hold 350-400 lb bench press in the bottom position for 30 minutes, but am unable to get passed 40 seconds. This means I have 29 minutes & 20 seconds more of progress to obtain, and thus I am seeking that “little tweak” that will allow me to accomplish this task.
