I would like to see the strength and condition programs from U. of Miami and LSU. Then I would to compare them to ASU, Boise State and Oklahoma.
I would like to see the volume and sets. To really compare the Systems.
Anybody out there have these systems?
I can tell u from first hand experience OU’s program sucks. Way to much volume not nearly enough rest time between sets, no regard to technique used to lift weights. Many guys having low back, shoulder and knee pain. Each session is about 40-45 sets lifting close to max weight per the given rep scheme 80% of the time, with about 30-45 sec rest between each set. 4x a week. Conditions the crap out of u but makes u weak. max squat went from 455 to 415 in only 7 weeks. Only speed work done is overspeed bungee cords with about 30 sec rest intervals. OU won despite their program. Talent and quality coaching will always prevail as long as something is done in the weight room. It should be no suprise OU was manhandle up front by K-state and LSU in their last two games of the year. Everyone wants to give jerry schmidt so much credit for making teams but look at what he has worked with. Lou holtz at notre dame (always had amazing talent under holtz), Spurrier at florida (talent in abundance) and now Bob stoops at OU. all coaches are great coaches with a great eye for spotting unrecognized talent and putting them in postion to make plays. Let schmidt take his training to a school like rutgers or temple and see how he does
ASU- uses the tier system w/ conjugate periodization. Coach H at elitefts.com has a journal, book (Joe Kenn) and his q&a which go into it.
LSU and USC are influenced by Gayle Hatch’s olympic lifting programs
Not sure about Boise State, but the current ASU coach used to be at Boise so they probably do something similar.
Miami is not supposed to have that great a program, just freak athletes. SpeedKills knows more about them.
Most college programs are based on high volumes in the form of bodybuilding and olympic lifts…what is crazy is that people look like heros…I like rob rodgers, he seems to get it done well.
Wildcat, do u know what type of training that the OU sprinters do(weight room and track work)? I have a hard time believing that DaBryan Blanton does the same weights routine that the football players do, as he has continually improved since he got there. If he does then that’s just freakish!!!
No clue on what OU track does weight wise, as im not at OU but at a school where the two new S&C coaches were schmidts top two assistants at OU. sorry cant help you out there
I’ll bite…who’s Rodgers and where does he coach?
Rob rogers coaches at middle tennessee state…he gets the numbers in the lifts safely and does some of the little things like warm-ups and core work. He does a great job.
That is insane. I feel sorry for those players. It is really amazing how far raw genetic potential and good scheming will take a team in a skill sport, in spite of their training program. In a non-skill sport like sprinting, of course, the above type of program would destroy their careers.
wildcats hit it on the head! This is so common maybe I should start doing that stuff to blend in…
No, DaBryan Blanton doesn’t use the football weights program. I have reason to believe that his sprint coach Shanon Atkinson designs his and his fellow short sprinters’ programs.
strenth shoes…exposed! Rob, tell me it aint so! Your presentations were great…what happened?
I think it makes much, much more sense for collegiate sprint coaches to make custom programs for their sprinters. As Garry said, DaBryan does utilize a tailored program that his coach developed for the short sprinters. There would be hell to pay if sprinters sacrifice speed for general “strength” workout.
Arizona is nice this time of year Wildcats, isn’t it?
If someone was to give “specific” information regarding major collegiate strength programs, credibility is the main issue. Anyone with time can slander programs, but maybe it isn’t the program that is at fault, or it just might be the case. How much responsibility is placed with the athlete to recover, regenerate and have the knowledge and the ability to apply this their training? How much of a programs problems are due to error, both by athletes and the staff? How much liberty are the athletes given in said program? Use the injury rate as a gauge of stupidity and irresponsibility of the athlete too, not just a strength coaches’ lack of knowledge and direction.
I don’t trust Miami’s strength program outlined on their sports site, because there wouldn’t be any direct benefit from this action, and gloating does not count.
Another point that underlies the structure of a program is an ideal, which is missing from a quantity of reps and sets on a piece of paper or report. Take program philosophies and nuances and compare them, you would discover more about them.
The training program on Miami’s site has been on there for years. It is not the workout they currently follow. Do a search under my name for what they currently do under Swasey.
I have a copy of University of Maryland’s program laying around somewhere. They do 4 days of weight training and I think 2 days of conditioning work. Each weight training day starts with an Olympic type movement. Then they go into powerlifting exercises, then bodybuilding movements. Each exercise gets 3 sets with the Olympic and powerlifting movements using low reps and high reps for the bodybuilding exercises. A solid program.