What the hell is track?
Marathon-messengers of war…
Discus and Javelin- weapons of war
Fun is the euphoria of winning and pushing your body…getting your ass kicked is not fun. Fun? Competing is fun…when you are ready. Nothing feels better.
Most athletes taste two parts…the physical and mental…not the spiritual.
Krasnayfleur - Exactly.
agreed… even when the darkness is REALLY dark. when you’ve got someone trying to break you and you feel like you’re at the bottom and you suck, there is nowhere to go but up… 
That is deep. I agree with the “tasting” part the most.
Yeah winning is fun so is pushing your body, I don’t disagree with this but Climbing the mountain is just as fun as reaching the top . I disagree with your attitude.You seem to lose perspective about life and blabber a bunch of nonesense that sounds like something from the nazi party line. Track is a sport, nothing less, nothing more. If you like track you will work hard at it, but track is not the be all end all of life and it is not war.
Let Round 1 begin.
Why is this becoming so damn philosophical, the correct answer to the question that was posted is YES. But absolutely nothing in this thread has yet to strongly convince me otherwise that you can prioritize your time to get a full 8hrs sleep day in-day out for the entire academic year and for the full academic career, won’t happen.
And if you think I’m wrong…wait till you start Grad School or Med school, etc etc professional school.
Look K, if you’re thinking of dropping some courses to do better in school and be able to run, then do it. Some people see that as being lazy or wrong, when infact you are working much harder than an individual who is taling 7-8 courses per year.
let me pose another question to you, what about individuals that have disablilties and still want to participate in sport and school and their fullest potential, do you still think you can get 8hrs sleep/night??
I don’t think so…
To go along with Vito, kind of, what about working? I have heard no one mention trying to get 8hrs sleep while doing sports, school, AND working. Thoughts?
400stud, i’ll tell you how that plan comes out. I’ll be going to school, training, coaching, and then going to work.
Good luck. I do 2/4 and will hopefully be doing at least 3/4 soon. I also coach some people online, kind of, so I guess that kind of counts.
I must say you are very strong to be doing all 4 at one time. Let God be with you.
Track is a sport, nothing less, nothing more. If you like track you will work hard at it, but track is not the be all end all of life and it is not war.
The Character I develope with my training and mentoring has developed countless all-americans and a half dozen olympic athletes…but the people that don’t make that glory end up making six figure salaries from the knowledge of understanding. This is why you fail Terminator…you just don’t know how to push it.
Who have you sent to the Olypmics, if you don’t mind me asking?
lol, only did track one year in highschool. I’m going to try out for the college track team this year in college. I’m fairly new to training, been training since january. I don’t think I’ve failed or succeded. I’m cranking up my training now, I’m not the most talented, but I think I will do well if I work hard. Will see if I fail this year. Only time will tell but I don’t think I will fail. My character is fine.
The Character I develope with my training and mentoring has developed countless all-americans and a half dozen olympic athletes…but the people that don’t make that glory end up making six figure salaries from the knowledge of understanding.
Totally agree.
Just adding to Track not being the end all, i’ve noticed that at times some coaches do a good job of running athletes away from sports in which they could have gone a long way in. It’s not just in track but it’s the easiest to do with track, cuz it’s not a sport that you can get away with anything less than dedicated. If you are it’ll show. Back in high school my coach all but made me quit track, even though I loved it more than anything at the time. He made it seem like a job, and taught us more about hating our rival schools than lowering our times. No life lesson’s learned, but a lot of mental fatigue from being treated as points. So I got plenty of sleep. But it just happened to be in my chemistry class.
My philosophy with coaching and metoring has always been to help the person help themselves. Kinda like Blade Brown told Duncan Pinderhughes, in “Class Act”. I’m not gonna force views, i’m not lookin for a protege, just tryin to help folks become better folks. On the track and off.
Clemson does look a little like Tom Cruise. Or does TOm Cruise look like Clemson? 
I’M SORRY, I’VE FAILED YOU ALL! IT’S 11:54 PM AND I’M POSTING THIS
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I once asked one of my close friends, “hey, bud, how come you don’t do any sports?” his reply, “Because if I do sports I will not have enough time for computer games school and sleep.” my solution: SLEEP ON THE WEEKENDS!!!
Why is this becoming so damn philosophical, the correct answer to the question that was posted is YES. But absolutely nothing in this thread has yet to strongly convince me otherwise that you can prioritize your time to get a full 8hrs sleep day in-day out for the entire academic year and for the full academic career, won’t happen.
Vito, I kinda disagree.
I think having a schedule that full can actually help you to better prioritize your time. You’re almost forced to eliminate all the uneccessary stuff that goes on around you and you find yourself doing what’s needed before you do anything else. When I was in high school, my best grades came during the track season. I knew that after school, I had practice, and after practice I had to do my homework. If tried to squeeze anything else in between that time, I wouldn’t have time to do what was needed, and something would suffer.
My 1st year in college, I did horrible. I didn’t play any sport, so I had way too much free time, and I found myself always saying, “I can start the paper tomorrow”, or “I can read chapter 5 later”. Later always came sooner than I had hoped.
Listen Guys -
I’ve been around long enough to know that without proper sleep forget about reaching optimum levels of acheievment in ANY domain - sport or academia.
Furthermore there is big distinction between training hard and training stupidly.
Ignoring sleep/rest/recuperation falls squarely in the stupid bracket.
Training hard requires as much if not more sleep than just “putting in hours of training”
If people don’t want to take advice from intelligent comments from the likes of Vito etc. - don’t - go on and try ignoring sleep and rest - in 10 years time you’ll be advising someone else and saying the things Vito is saying now.
i’m still not sure the question i originally meant to ask has been answered…
i have every intention of finding a way to get proper sleep when track season starts. but if i don’t get proper sleep in the MEANTIME, will that come back to haunt me even after I do start sleeping properly again? or does everything sort itself out pretty quickly when you start sleeping more…
Krasnayafleur - the answer is ‘No’.
Once a proper sleeping pattern is resumed after a short period of time a one should be able to resume very hard training providing the rest is sufficient.
My only concern is in the mean time - I don’t see 4-6 hours being enough to perform at a high level for a sustained period - but I think I got that point of my chest earlier so nuff said !!
BTW,
Where is Mr. P Diddy himself?
I’d love to hear Mr. Shumons advice on this one … I’m sure he gets more than 6 hours snooze in the cot …
Try asking him to do with less than 8 hours!