Here is a question that is troubling me

If there is no God, then,
one may ask, who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of
things on earth?’

Bill Gates and Warren Buffett…

Recently, I’ve shifted all my computing over to Macs, so I guess I’ll be going to hell.

why does there need to be a governor?

Well if your one to believe in evolution and all of that line of thought then ones reply would have to be nothing governs/directs mans life except the need to procreate and multiply which comes from some magical place within the cosmic gew from which we all bubbled up from that is now within all living things, etc… I guess this would be the answer lol.

my question is…when the world ends what happens to life,what happens to us.the earth may not be here so where the heck will we be??!

think about it and this will bend your mind,it has for me for many many years

And who will maintain everyone’s Facebook and MySpace accounts…??? This can keep people up at nights if they think too much about it. :wink:

i dont see why the idea must be that, life and humans are a neccesity to the universe.
going further, existence is not a neccesity for anything, nothing NEEDS to exist, it can stop existing and nothing will happen in the end.

So u say that it’s man governs it all, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet in particular? Pardon me but in order to govern, one needs, after all, to have a precise plan for certain, at least somewhat decent, length of time. Allow me to ask you, then, how man can govern, if he is not only deprived of the opportunity of making a plan for at least some ridiculously short period - well, say, a thousand years - but cannot even vouch for his own tomorrow? And in fact imagine that you, for instance, start governing, giving orders to others and yourself, generally, so to speak, acquire a taste for it, and suddenly you get lung cancer and so your governing is over!
You are no longer interested in anyone’s fate but your own. Your
family starts lying to you. Feeling that something is wrong, you rush to
learned doctors, then to quacks, and sometimes to fortune-tellers as well.
Like the first, so the second and third are completely senseless, as you
understand. And it all ends tragically: a man who still recently thought he
was governing something, suddenly winds up lying motionless in a wooden box,
and the people around him, seeing that the man lying there is no longer good
for anything, burn him in an oven. Sometimes it’s worse still: the man has just decided to go to the Olympics games in 2012 a trifling matter, it seems, but even this he cannot accomplish, because suddenly, no one knows why, he slips and falls under a tram-car! Are you going to say it was he who governed himself that way? Would it not be more correct to think that he was governed by someone else entirely? You may probably counter me like this - yes, man is mortal, no one disputes that. But the thing is…’ Yes my friend, man is mortal, but that would be only half the trouble. The worst of it is that he’s sometimes unexpectedly mortal - there’s the trick! And generally he’s unable to say what he’s going to do this same evening.’
You’re probably thinking What an absurd way of putting the question there’s some exaggeration here. About this same evening you do
know more or less certainly. It goes without saying, if a brick should fall
on your head. No brick will ever fall on anyone’s head just out of the blue. In this particular case, I assure you, you are not in danger of that at all. You will die a different death.

PS I’m not christian nor muslim nor whatever…

it needs to be accepted that humans are simply smart animals, and will one day die, and that’s it for them. Just like it was for the other animals that have died over time.

Swimming pool man
Barack Obama is a smart animal, excellent!!! Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish. Bill gates, some bum on the street etc

Nothing like a good christmas time philosophical debate!:smiley:

Bumer, what you are describing in the above scenarios where unexpected things happen isn’t an issue of who is in control but rather is an example of randomness. Many events happen without anybody being in control or for any purpose.

People tend to assume that if an event occurs then there has to be something or someone causing it. This is because people do things with the intent of acheiving goals and tend to assume that the rest of the universe works this way as well. This ability to see random events as a larger pattern is an important part of human intelligence, but it’s not always correct.

Randomness, the chaos theory. “The chaos is in the heads” - as one classic said, there is no chaos in nature. So you were born just randomly, chaos caused it, from a pile of shit? Randomly just into a bit different world that u have expected right? IF I throw a brick onto your head, it’s not my fault, it’s evolution. Someone said The only evil on this planet is from the hands of humans. And the other one calls a man a smart animal. There is no difference how smart you think u are, you’re as smart as cockrouch in the eyes of a god. "Flies, for example, know nothing of science, nor evolution, nor the theory of chaos, nor the quantum mechanics, I observe, “but what of that?”

JiuJitsu3565
You have goals and new years resolution right? You gotta need plan. But let me warn you you may will not wake up next morning. I hope you aren’t one of those who sleeps for half and hour, then jumps up and keeps walking and walking about to see whether the evil people have not set fire to something, have not stolen something or were intending to kill ya?

who made god?
why did god allow evil to even exist?
why did god have such an imperfect design of the universe, and living things?
why are there scientific errors and contradictions in religious books?
why did the idea of a soul and a god come from pre historic times, essentially from people who didnt know much?
why is atheism more common among higher IQ people vs. lower IQ people?

Truck man

  1. Who made god?
    I think the question “May I grab God by balls” would be as well intelligent

  2. Why did god have such an imperfect design of the universe, and living things?
    I think it depends of view on things in general, everything has it’s beuty but not everyone is able to see it. Kindly consider the question: what would your good do if evil did not exist, and what would the earth look like if shadows disappeared from it? Everything will turn out right, the world is built on that.

  3. Why are there scientific errors and contradictions in religious books? Which ones? I didn’t read no religious book in a whole my life

  4. Why did the idea of a soul and a god come from pre historic times, essentially from people who didnt know much?
    I’m not sure we have advanced that much from those times. As one said - I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

  5. Why is atheism more common among higher IQ people vs. lower IQ people?
    I’m an atheist! And I thank God for it! Heard that phrase before?
    There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they
    are shown, those who do not see.

‘It’s high
time you swore by it, since it’s hanging by a hair, I can tell you.’
‘You don’t think it was you who hung it, Hegemon?’ the prisoner asked.
‘If so, you are very mistaken.’
Pilate gave a start and replied through his teeth:
‘I can cut that hair.’
`In that, too, you are mistaken,’ the prisoner retorted, smiling
brightly and shielding himself from the sun with his hand. ‘YOU must agree
that surely only he who hung it can cut the hair?’

To die of sunburn! Why refuse what is offered
by law! In what terms did he refuse it?’
‘He said,’ the guest answered, again closing his eyes, ‘that he was
grateful and laid no blame for the taking of his life.’
‘On whom?’ Pilate asked in a hollow voice.
That he did not say, Hegemon…’
‘Did he try to preach anything in the soldiers’ presence?’
‘No, Hegemon, he was not loquacious this time. The only thing he said
was that among human vices he considered cowardice one of the first.’

lol this would be an akward debate.

you’re not religious and dont believe in god?

All I know is that I know nuffing… How about you?
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

well a wise person also would know what is more likely and what is less likely.

Who is that wise man? Is he gotta be recognised worldwide? Confucius? Da Vinci? Plato?
IF it were not them it would have been the other guys sooner or later with the other names there is nothing but idle chance."
Thats how I think

There are four, you mention the first three: masters (those who see), students (those who see when they are shown) and participants (those who do not see). The enlightened, the fourth, are in their last life or are in total spirit form.

Masters, students, participants and enlightened?
I didn’t give any brand names.

I have no particular passion for either policemen or butchers or
scientists or writers or the young. I consider brand-names and labels a prejudice. My holy of holies is the human body, health, intelligence, talent, inspiration, love, and absolute freedom, freedom from force and falseness in whatever form they express themselves. That’s the platform I’d subscribe to if I were a great artist."
Chekhov Anton Pavlovich