lkh- I don’t buy that Mike can’t produce results with a high quality athlete, because HPC’s track team started mainly in the fall.
As far as I can see, Dallas was running fast under Mike with the only injury being turf toe that he had prior to joining. Once Dallas started doing the wgf stuff (back in early march) he started getting more injured, including his hip/back, and began running poorly.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m pretty biased. But to me it seems like wgf sniped a kid who was clearly new to all of this, flashed some jingo in his face and got him interested, and now he has potentially lost a shot at the olympics. Turning a 6.10 55m into a 10.5x could have been accomplished with beer if that was his goal, but it wasn’t and now I feel really bad for him.
I want Dallas to succeed in spite of all of this and I want to be proven wrong, but I just don’t think it’s gonna happen with their system.
I don’t believe that at all. Had he communicated and stayed with Mike Young he would improve, if he didn’t Mike would adjust guaranteed. Only injury I have heard of was turf toe which has been a recurring injury for Dallas I believe. And one that he has had on and off for a long time. In other words not due to any prescriptive workouts.
Mike’s program is not drastically different from what Charlie would prescribe in that he is Short to Long.
I am not sure how fast Mike’s guys are presently but he has certainly worked with/around higher level athletes than Dallas at LSU.
Perhaps you’re forgetting that HPC/Mike Young were behind Dallas running out of his mind during indoor. The practice times Coach Young posted right before outdoor began looked for a very promising outdoor 100m. It was right after this when Drob’s injuries started and it coincided with when he started ignoring the HPC prescribed workouts- started working with WGF. Just from reading all of these posts that Drob has dropped on here, I know he fell away from HPCs workouts and not too long after, he fell apart. Drob is kind of like a drop in the bucket compared to the sprints group at lsu. I wish Drob the best of luck, but I think he shot himself in the foot.
And just because Dallas had a few shitty races doesn’t mean he’s done. If he would submit to a top coach & therapist (not a top bullshitter), I bet he could be back on track quickly. You guys act like he got hit by a truck. He’s not Tom Green, he just has some issues right now. How are the injuries being treated is what I’d like to know!
I know a few other situations like this and everyone tells the athlete they have all the answers (talking about therapists) and most of them are not worth their weight in dogshit.
I full agree with you mort, getting him a top therapist should be first and foremost to see what can be done about the new injuries. I am sure there are plenty of coaches out there with a history of coaching top quality athletes that would have loved to coach him, which is why I find it hard to swallow that he switched to a relatively unknown system at the elite level.
You are WAY OFF with all that you wrote…Mike is a great coach and is super smart at changing training and adjusting/ tapering, you name it…he knows a hell of alot and i bet will take many of the potentials in his club to a very high level, give them all time…
But how can you coach when your athlete isnt honest and upfront with you and decides to do his own thing !!!?
I do wonder if all this debate has driven drob away BUT someone needs to point out that you can’t take this from column A and that from column B and get results.
Whatever worked indoors should be followed outdoors but success draws outsiders eager to sign their names to what has already been done, and, sadly, it’s easy to get to an inexperienced guy.
This is not promising because if the outsiders really knew their stuff, they’d already have top athletes and wouldn’t need to jump in and sign their names to someone else’s work.
Maybe that is the best thing that can happen. Stay away from message boards and focus on training.
Dallas did a fantastic job training himself last year and was primed for a good 2008. Unfortunately things have not gone the way he and others wanted. Whichever way he chooses to train I truly hope it works for him and things work out.
I’m inclined to agree. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Too much external feedback from too many different points of view can cloud one’s vision and conuse issues. Too many concepts are tried in training and the plan loses it’s clarity.
Dallas Robinson Press Release
Wednesday - April 23, 2008
Due to incompatible philosophies and objectives that have come to light over the previous 2 months, Human Performance Consulting will be severing managerial and coaching connections with Dallas Robinson. Dallas is a talented and fine young man. However, it is in the best interest of all parties involved to move forward separately. We are proud we coached and managed Dallas to the fastest time in the world in the 55m and world ranked times in the 60m and 200m during the 2008 indoor track season. We wish Dallas the best of luck in his quest for Beijing and we thank him being a member of the HPC Elite Team.
