I actually think that Bullets 100m individual was even more impressive - 10.0h in a soft, chewed up lane one.
Blazin’ :shoot:
Originally posted by Dazed
I actually think that Bullets 100m individual was even more impressive - 10.0h in a soft, chewed up lane one.Blazin’ :shoot:
Apparently, it was also after getting a slight hamstring injury in the semifinal. He was amazing.
those clips are awesome.who said CL looked a bit tight.
Re splits;
I think Ron Freeman ran 43.2 second leg in Mexico at the 1968 Olympics, with Larry James at 43.8 and Lee Evans at 43.9.
Originally posted by Goose1
[quote]Originally posted by Dazed
I actually think that Bullets 100m individual was even more impressive - 10.0h in a soft, chewed up lane one.Blazin’ :shoot:
Apparently, it was also after getting a slight hamstring injury in the semifinal. He was amazing. [/quote]
Yes, this guy was absolutely incredible! He ran a wind-aided 9.91 e.t. in the semi’s in which he sustained the injury and slowed to a light jog before the finish! Then came back and ran a 10.06 w/ the injury.
hey prophet, if you had to zip all your pics up would it be too big to send ? ;))):devil:
Were any of the 10m segments in these splits faster than .81?
You can be sure they weren’t as you must maintain a smooth average. If you think of the 100m, a top sprinter is in a forward accelerating position for at least 35 meters, leaving only 65 meters to be completed in the full upright posiition. In the relay, the top athlete is fully up for at least 90 meters on the anchor, favouring a smoother approach.
I see, thanks Charlie.
Where did you get thsoe Splits from???
Christie’s Official Split from Seoul OG '88 was 8.98s, the splits for Lewis are 8.86s in Roma WCh '87,8.94s LA OG '84, 8.85s in Barcelona OG '92. And Sangouma only ever ran third leg for the French team. His best Splits were posted by Pierrejean(Great work!!!) 9.12s in Tokyo WCh '91 which is the World Best for a Men’s Third leg 4x100m relay Split and 9.20s in the Split '90 European Champiosnhips.4x200m Splits are correct. 19.2s for Lewis in Walnut I believe, and 19.1s for John Regis in Walnut 1994. But in the ATFS 2002 annual in the Michael Johnson career section it lists him as having a 18.5s best for a 200m anchor leg.But Pierrejean is skeptical about that Split.
And therefore he disregards it.Michael Johnson’s best anchor leg for the Men’s 4x400m relay is 42.94s, which to this date is the only sub-43.00s 400m time be it a relay leg or an individual race .
Quincy Watts was credited with a 43.00s second leg for the Men’s 4x400m relay.
This is the second fatest ever leg behind MJ’s 42.94s in Stuttgart WCh '93.And I believe X King’s list is going to be great.
I await his compilations with great patience.
Actually, the 3rd leg for France was Jean-Charles Trouabal, not Daniel Sangouma, who ran 8.90 for 2nd leg in Split’90.
Official split for Christie in Seoul’88 is 8.95 unless my source is wrong.
i’ve posted this in Run-Down.com forum about 4x200m splits:
The 30 fastest 200m legs i have found, from J-C Patinaud’s book 4x100m Temps Automatiques 1932-1990, Track & Field News and ATFS Athletics Annuals (there are some differences with the split times you gave for Walnut’94):
18.5? Michael JOHNSON (1:21.77 Austin’90)
19.1 John REGIS (1:19.10 Walnut’94)
19.2 M.Johnson (1:21.50 Walnut’91)
19.2 Carl LEWIS (1:19.11 Philadelphia’92)
19.2 M.Johnson (1:19.47 Philadelphia’99)
19.2 Maurice GREENE (1:20.44 Austin’01)
19.3* Tommie SMITH (1:21.7* Fresno’67)
19.3 James GILKES (1:20.23 Tempe’78 )
19.3 Dennis MITCHELL (1:19.10 Walnut’94)
19.4 Tony DARDEN (1:21.8 Tempe’78 )
/10
19.4 Reynaldo NEHEMIAH (1:23.6 Philadelphia’79)
19.4 C.Lewis (1:21.84 Modesto’88 )
19.4 C.Lewis (1:18.68 Walnut’94)
19.5 Vernus RAGADALE (Walnut’64)
19.5* Curtis MILLS (1:21.3* Des Moines’70)
19.5 Herman FRAZIER (1:21.0 Tempe’78 )
19.5 Tony DEES (1:21.38 Tempe’90)
19.6* Don QUARRIE (1:20.7* Los Angeles’72)
19.6 Willie DECKARD (1:21.6* Walnut’72)
19.6e* Steve WILLIAMS (1:23.1 Fresno’74)
/20
19.6 William MULLINS (1:20.26 Tempe’78 )
19.6 C.Lewis (3:11.72 SpMedley Tempe’84)
19.6 C.Lewis (3:12.2 SpMedley Walnut’84)
19.6 Floyd HEARD (1:19.38 Koblenz’89)
19.6 C.Lewis (1:19.38 Koblenz’89)
19.6 Lary MYRICKS (1:21.40 Tempe’90)
19.6 F.Heard (1:22.98 Walnut’91)
19.6 Leroy BURRELL (1:18.68 Walnut’94)
19.6 M.Greene (1:19.92 Philadelphia’00)
19.6 M.Johnson (1:21.45 Berlin’01)
Note: Steve Williams was timed by several watches between 19.2* and 19.7* in Fresno’74 during 1:23.1*.
- yards times converted to meters.
The all-time list is for sub1:20 performances (average 20.00):
1:18.68 USA (Marsh 20.0, Burrell 19.6, Heard 19.7, Lewis 19.4) Walnut 170494
1:19.10 W (Drummond 20.4, Mitchell 19.3, Bridgewater 20.3, Regis 19.1) Walnut 170494
1:19.11 USA (Marsh 20.4, Burrell 19.7, Heard 19.8, Lewis 19.2) Philadelphia 250492
1:19.38 USA (Everett 20.2, Burrell 20.0, Heard 19.6, Lewis 19.6) Koblenz 230889
1:19.39 USA (Drummond, Crawford, Williams, Greene) Philadelphia 280401
1:19.45 USA (DeLoach, Burrell, Lewis, Heard) Philadelphia 270491
1:19.47 USA (Brokenburr, Harrison, Greene, Johnson 19.2) Philadelphia 240499
1:19.67 W (Frater, Williams, Patton, Collins) Philadelphia 290400
1:19.85 USA (Greene, A.Johnson, Harrison, M.Johnson) Philadelphia 250498
1:19.88 W (Thompson, Nordin, Henderson, Griffin) Austin 030499
1:19.91 W (Perry, Drummond, Boldon, Greene) Austin 030499
1:19.92 USA (Brokenburr 20.2, Howard 20.1, Griffin 20.0, Greene 19.6) Philadelphia 290400
Unofficial World Best progression
20.3 Henry CARR (Walnut 280462)
20.3 Henry CARR (Los Angeles 180562)
19.8 Henry CARR (Fresno 110563)
19.5 Vernus RAGADALE (Walnut 250464)
19.3* Tommie SMITH (Walnut 130567)
19.3 James GILKES (Tempe 270578)
18.5? Michael JOHNSON (Austin 060490)
19.2 Michael JOHNSON (Walnut 210491)
19.2 Carl LEWIS (Philadelphia 250492)
19.1 John REGIS (1:19.10 Walnut 170494)
For the women, i don’t have enough data, the fastest i have are:
20.8 Marion JONES (1:27.46 Philadelphia’00)
21.2 M.Jones (1:30.23 Philadelphia’99)
21.9 Nanceen PERRY (1:31.90 Austin’98 )
22.0 Sonia LANNAMAN (1:31.57 London’77)
22.1 Sevatheda FYNES (1:31.13 Philadelphia’99)
For the Women World Record, I have found those splits from my tape:
1:27.46 Jenkins 22.8, Colander-Richardson 22.0, Perry 21.9, Jones 20.83.
Goose1,
Run, bullet, run is infact the story of Hayes as told by the man himself.
The other author listed is Robert Pack.
Amazon states that the book is out of print.
There is a book called “Run, bullet, run”-
-“the rise, fall, and rediscovery of Bob Hayes.”
I’ll try and find the name of the auther. Anyway, anybody know where I can buy it? Anybody come across a book on Bob Hayes?
I was just brousing through the archives and found this thread.
Where are these “official” splits coming from.
I did a little calculation using my VCR. I don’t have Hayes’ race on tape but I have Lewis from Barcelona in 1992. At .033s/frame, I counted 261 frames for an absolutely incredible 8.61 split for Lewis +/- .033s. So, AT WORST, Lewis ran 8.64. Where did the 8.85 come from??
This run was phenomenal. Lewis makes Christie and Ezinwa (both 9.96 that year) look like little girls. Even judging purely from the hand times that appear on the screen whent the split begins and subtracting from the USA’s, Britain’s and Nigeria’s final times, it looks like Lewis ran almost 3 TENTHS faster than these guys in that leg alone.
As far as I’m concerned, this is the best sprint race I’ve ever seen Lewis run. Superior even to his 19.75 with arms up.
Incidentally, Barcelona turned out to be a pretty amazing meet for Lewis. Even though he “only” jumped 8.67m in the long jump, take a look at where his foot plants on this attempt (the first of the competition). His toes appear to be at least 1.5 board widths (30cm) back from the BEGINNING of the board. This surely could have been a 9 metre jump. Unfortunately, the winds in Olympic stadium swirled for the remainder of the competition, and Lewis couldn’t improve on this effort.
Interesting analysis. PJ will denfinetly have something to say about that.
I also thought that Lewis’ anchor leg was fast, but a time in the 8.6s range seems mega-fast, even for Lewis who was an absolute beast on the anchor.
Bob Hayes’ anchor from the Tokyo 1964 OG Men’s 4x100m final was astounding. I am a fair bit suspect of the actual time, because I have read many books and literature, and it all quotes Hayes’ as having his anchor leg timed in the range of 8.6-8.9s (8.9s is the slowest time given for Hayes), but some literature says that Hayes ran an 8.4s anchor, which would be 8.64s FAT, probably worth around 8.1-8.2s today, with the advantages of today…
Hayes was exceptionally talented, and would be challenging (if not beating) many of today’s top sprinters, but does anyone believe that Hayes ran an anchor of 8.4s???
Same question for Hines’ supposed 8.2s anchor in Mexico City '68…if he achieved such a time, Figeroula (Cuba) must have run 8.4-8.5s (Hines was 1 metre down, and then won by a metre at the finish), which is faster than Lewis…any data PJ or anyone else to back this up???
Thankyou
The problem with these split time is accuracy. Hines definitively not ran 8.2 anchor in Mexico.
Sprinterl, about Lewis in Barcelona’92, i’m curious how you found that split time since there was no mark for the middle zone (between the 2 yellow lines). Since this line isn’t drawn (and isn’t in the same point as 100m start line because of lanes decay) it’s very difficlut to find intermediate times for Barcelona races. No idea where 8.85 come from either, i’ve red 8.80 too, that’s not really important anyway.
When i click at this Link a page opens with an article:
Hayes made his mark with Cowboys
that´s all…
so, how can i found this videoclip ?
The same happens with another link posted here.
Wheres the vid clip of the relay leg on that link ?
I can’t find it either. Anyone?
Pushing it up — anyone know where to find the video on that site or elsewhere OL?
Keep in mind you don’t have to add .24 for relay legs!