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My beef is - there seems a lot of people not understanding where they guys are coming from - things are seemingly getting lost in translation. Most info most of the time, is stored on a computer or a web page etc - if you cannot communicate your idea well, its not much to cut n paste from someplace else that does communicate well.
The idea on this thread is really not that hard to communicate across surely? Instead the ideas getting presented are full of pseudo fluff.
Sure they dont get paid - but neither do a lot of people who present ideas on here. Perhaps thats been whats happening on this site the last 12mnths or so? Very little actual “real material” being discussed as "im not getting paid for this so… "

Remember - im presenting this from people that dont know about Arp or HRV etc. NOt from those that already are in the mix of things.

Perhaps tomorrow if i have time, ill find some info n cut n paste it for those who want to find it out. (free)

On a business stand point - im interested on how one approaches this aspect.
30min sessions have been noted - charge rate what? $35? And what is included in such a session? 5min of pre-talk - Test (6min) present results (10min) - Then what? 10min of What to do for next session ie, plan next session?

i been using the Polar HRV for about 12months now

I would suggest those wanting to understand the concepts try and look at it from an Eastern Approach rather than a Western philosophy.

Like what ? Quantum babbling ? Matrix red and blue pill babbling ? :stuck_out_tongue: blodwarrior is perfectly right.

The Eastern Approach being ? What makes you think you cant understand a thing from the point of view of science (which btw, doesn’t change color in function of meridians of Earth)

NumberTwo,Jamirok,Boldwarrior ,

What software do you use with polar rs800?

thanks!

I use PolarRS800 and It’s a great device, I use It for my interpretation of HRV analysis with an external software and not using Polar proper features.
I like raw data and not a watch tell me what’s happen into the body.
If you use it in that way and have results, It’s good for you, but in my opinion at professional level, you have to do another step.
I use RS800 from about 3 years.

Then, on the concept of “Training do nothing”, the problem are the points of view, yours are different from mine, peace.

On cut and copy informations, our work is first at all practical, theory is on the book, on internet, in the mind of armchair expert as Dan, we have just provided to give you some reference.
Do specific question and me or pakewi will try to give you an answer.

At the end of the game, you’re still here to read us, be coherent!

Do you see your role on earth to be prickly and confrontational or is it that it just comes naturally to your nature or have I just wiped your eye in a previous life?

You can try this http://kubios.uku.fi/

Yes, there is the new software, but actually I like the old (best detrendend method algorithm).

Which old software? Kubios 1 or the old Polar software?

Jamirok,
could you please tell at what level in soccer are you working or the team?

And, I think this sentence is quite interesting: “After 3 years in soccer teams, I can predict performance at 90%, with few errors and specific and general athletes trends”.

What can you predict, in particular? The question arises because soccer is a “complex” sport where fitness is one of the many components. I mean, I could be extremely ready to go and offer an extremely bad performance, unfortunately.

I dont think this answers my question. What is the eastern mindset ? Furthermore, I dont think you wiped anything besides your own …

So it does come naturally

Kubios 1, detrends better the VLF (imo).

I work or have worked with Serie A, B and C1/C2 teams.

Physiology is common to all humans, you can predict performance with 10-15 parameters that you evaluate with HRV.
Trends, dynamic HRV complete the scenario.
For Injuries, actually HRV can’t predict (in my experience) muscle tears, but works well with minor problems neurologically correlated.

Dropping one error-riddled paradigm for another hardly improves discussion or understanding of what is actually taking place and how to improve it.

…improve it!

…?

I don’t claim to have the answers, but to think an Eastern mindset is correct, rather than simply a different perspective with flaws of its own, is ludicrous. Get bacterial meningitis and tell me how Eastern medicine works for you.

I think a lot of Western medicine ignores and misses out of things because many are stuck in certain mindsets or beliefs, but I don’t think that justifies going the extreme opposite way.

Don’t go with words where you want.
I’ve never said or done affirmation on pathologic condition and non medical approaches to any kind of problems.
Western medicine ignore a lot of thing, do you want to try to speak about pharmaceutical lobby???

I speak only about sport perfomance and recovery, this is the only point of this 3D.

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