Why the Higher Volume of tempo the day before a speed day and not the other way around? I can understand having the high tempo volume 2 days after the second speed workout becasue you are taking Sunday off but in the other case i really dont understand why you would want to place the tempo days in that order.
One the two high intensity day week, the 1000m tempo days have a higher demand for the other componants you see listed in the diagram. In other words, the days with 2000m of tempo are easier than the days with 1000m of tempo.
Sounds like you’re on the right track, though it’s hard to describe in detail all the drills here. We’re currently working on a new GPP series E-book which will cover this topic, allowing us to take advantage of the E-books unique ability to use MOVING illustrations.
Video or Illustrations Charlie? So many details such as depth, angles, speed , and general patterns make hurdle mobility effective. I have used about 120 drills on just that…add in the non hurlde mobility we are talking about a 1000. The key is to choose each drill for each purpose with care…just don’t add stuff to be cool.
Clemson wrote:
The key is to choose each drill for each purpose with care…just don’t add stuff to be cool.
What about the “principle” of variety as a training component? Would you consider this a good enough reason to add or change something? I ask becuause:
while the change may be minor (maybe simply changing the order in which the drills are normally performed or chainging where they are placed in the workout) can be a stimulus in itself
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sometimes i just liked to do something diff w/o much rationale (from a scientific or training theory point of view). Like instead of 20m fly I’ll do 15m flys. Or instead of 6 x 200 I may go 2 x 215, 200, 185 . Or sometime I just move the workout (or warm-up) to the other side of the track. It can get “boring” for coaches, too. And sometimes I feel like making those small changes can “re-awaken the senses” for the athletes.
Like women, variety is the spice of life KT…but many coaches just start using the variation principal with now clue why. Like adding random things…I agree with your training and use a very similar style…variety is a great purpose, but chaning up everything all the time can be dangerous.
The only hurdle mobility drill with any real value imo is walking under and over. I feel the walking under can play a role in breaking up adhesions formed by a previous day’s hard work.
Most of the other stuff to me is a waste of time. It’s like doing work for the sake of doing work.
Share in detail…it’s great to believe in what you do (in this case don’t do) but be specific! Charlie, could you explain the purpose of the weight you use when doing mobility?
The One,
So you think all the other hurdle mobility drills i mentioned are a waste of time? They do nothing for hip flexability and mobility?
Can you eleaborate? And when you do over unders how many hurdles do you use and how many reps?
Clemson, I don’t do the majority of them simply because i don’t see the value. A lot of coaches argue that it builds up strength in the hip area and that’s why they use it. Or it strengthens the muscles that aid in stabilization.
I don’t think the hip flexors need any special strength work(knee lift is a result of force application) so I won’t use it for that. As for stabilization, there are many superior ways to strengthen the gluteus med ( I believe that is the only stabilizer of any real importance hurdle mobility drills work). Oh yea, there is the arguement that it teaches you to stay tall and it builds local endurance in the muscles needed to do this. I rather do strength endurance drills, to reduce the load do them in marching or skipping mode instead of running mode.
Originally posted by THEONE Can’t the above be achieved with a good stretching program. Some static and dynamic stretches maybe?
I do dynamic stretches and static stretches but i also like to loosen up my joints using the hurdles as part of the warm-up before I do speed-work and i’m going to try doing some of them during tempo today(I just learned some new stuff I can do with the hurdles by reading this thread). I like the way the hurdles feel when I use them and think their effective in loosening muscles and joints.
You are talking about Mobility and hurdles drills.
The only one I do is a rear leg drill - only one I can do or know how to do.
I am quite tight through hips, lower back sciatic nerve and that general area. Would I benefit learning and doing hurdle drills.
I most say I have know idea what half the description used by Quik look like - so are there any books, website that show good drills for a non hurdler.