I’ve been doing Brazillian Ju-Jitsu the last couple of weeks three times a week.I’m only going to be able to train at the school I’m training at for like 4 more weeks. The problem is I don’t know how to balance the track and going to Brazillian Ju-Jitsu. The Brazillian Ju-Jitsu is teusday,wensday,thursday,and saturday.I count the brazillian Ju-Jitsu days as high-intensity so I’m only able to sprint once,mabye twice a week.My question is, is their any way for me to sprint more with Brazillian ju-jitsu.How stressful is the Brazillian ju-jitsu on the cns. I sprint mondays and sometimes once later in the week. Is their anytype of runs mabye in the 75-95% I could do in the middle of the week?Any ideas on how I could sprint more without dropping the ju-jitsu?Also from my experiance Ju-Jitsu is alot less stressful on the cns then sprinting but I’m under the impression that it is still mainly anaerobic. I don’t really get out of breath doing ju-jitsu.
Why do you feel it’s high intensity? Because it’s tiring or because of contact etc?
I feel it’s high intensity more becuase of the contact. We practice moves and do drills and then we roll. Rolling is basically a type of sparring where you go all out and try to submit your opponent.When you get your opponent in a submission you apply force until your opponent taps out to signal that you got him. Bjj is submission wrestling. I actualley don’t get tired doing this when I roll I roll very relaxed and even when I go up against bigger people I don’t seem to get to tired or out of breath.But I don’t know what effect this has on the cns.
I am not a bjj person, but i am in a similar situation as i do Hapkido as well as Track. Hapkido does do some grappling, although not everyday like bjj, so this may or may not apply.
I usually treat my martial arts class as part of tempo work because although there is some high intensity work (ballistic throws, reversals, striking) it isn’t as draining physically as a higher CNS day. Correct me if i am wrong, but even during a high intensity bout of groundwork, the only major CNS work is specific techniques such as reversals, mounts, and setups for submissions. During the rest of the time there is lower intensity (especially during the “hand fencing” period 
). Adding this training to a sprint program, i think would be more akin to lifting weights on a tempo day. This may not be optimal, but it isn’t suicide.
Side note: It is kind of weird for me to talk about adding martial arts into track training because i started martial arts much earlier and then got into track.
In Hapkido quarkthedark(edit before I said dork instead of dark,sorry if you read that I thought that was your name) when you grapple do you guys go all out and wrestle with the oppenent trying to submit them?Thats what I was wondering if it was high intensity?Also jsut to throw up another question would the force on the muscles from a submission be high intensity. If i get in a submission someone applies force to the muscles to tap you out and when I feel that I have reached the point where it would start to become painful.Sometimes we practice takedowns and I’m pretty sure when we do takedowns that they are pretty high-intensity more so then rolling.
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T2,
If you just started BJJ than yes, it does feel like it’s heavy on the CNS at 1st but after a few weeks you will cruise through the warm-ups (1/2 hr) and technique work (30-60min.) so it will be very much like tempo IMO for these 1st two parts. In about another month or so the takedown sessions and full-on grappling (1/2hr)feels the same way too. I had some friends who dedicated their lives to the sport/MA and they go to class 6 days a week- twice per day in addition to lifting weights so it can’t be that heavy on the cns.
So are you thinking of doing the other speed day on Friday followed by weights?
Didn’t Herb do MAs as well? I don’t know if he did both at the same time however.
-Balance
Know Bjj is easier on me because I roll relaxed. I’m thinking of doing the other speed day this week saturday becuase there is no class this saturday, I usually go three times a week so I can fit in a second speed day.But next week I was thinking if it was possible to do speed three times a week. I did speed monday and ju-jitsu yesteryday.I’m going to do Ju-jitsu tonight.Monday I did flying sprints and benchpress.Tuesday I rolled and did drills and techniques in Ju-Jitsu and also did tempo runs 10x100 30 second rest. Today I’m going to do Ju-jitsu,could I also today do some special endurance today?I don’t feel very explosive,Do you need to feel explosive or really fresh to do speedwork or special endurance or could I do them on days when I’m less explosive. My muslces arn’t sore today.
T2,
If I were in your shoes or Gi for that matter I would take the day off if I did not feel totally fresh but that’s just me. I would rather undertrain than overtrain anytime.
Terminator,
It is not possible to do both sprinting and BJJ, and do well in both. It is either one or the other. With BJJ you can supplement it with sprinting, but not the other way around.
You asked if you “need to feel explosive or really fresh to do speedwork or special endurance or could I do them on days when I’m less explosive.” Absolutely. Perhaps not so much for the SpEnd days, but for sure 100% no questions asked yes!!! for the speed days.
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Thanks for the advice Balance and Herb I’m definently not running today and I’m prolly not going to do Ju-Jitsu either. Tommorow I should be fresh from doing nothing today except stretching and I will do special endurance and Ju-Jitsu tommorow.