Ben Johnson 60m workout times

Charlie:

Would it be accurate to assume that Ben did his 60m (ex. 6 x 60m) repeat speed workout in 5.70-6.00?

I assumed this based on Angela’s 60m time in CFTS. With Ben’s Pr being apprx. .7 faster than Angela’s Pr. Make sense?

LOL I’d LOVE to run 50m in 5.7-6.0 FAT :smiley:

LOL… Yeah, A 5.7 FAT 50m is world class…

my 40yrd is 5.2. :-(((

Although that is not very fast for 40yd, its not where you start its how you end.

I saw a lot of wierd fluctuating times for his 60s in CFTS! I wonder whats the case there?

His times depended on how hard he was running, of course, and what he was emphasizing. sometimes he’d start off full-blast, other times he’d build up more slowly and work on the finish. I figured that, from first motion there could be a .6 to .65 differential to electronic (the electronic being that much slower)

I totally agree with you. Thats something I try to explain to a lot of people and just as you start trying, problems all the way! The coaches think that you are questioning their timing ability and the athletes would think that you’re trying to put them off. GOD!! at last we have it from a trust worthy person like you. But you know what. 90% will still never believe it. The truth is hard. But you can’t go no where until you know where you actually are!

Agreed, unrealistic expectations based on hand-timed 60m: is quite common. There should always be an addition of at least 0.4s to the competition time. Anything lesser and you’re fooling yourself.

Thats why whenever I have a sprint session I time it using the video Camera frames method. Else ( when camera is not available or there is no one to start me by hitting the sticks ), I just run with no timing even if hand timing is available.

I have suffered from hand timing severly over time. Sometimes the coach doesn’t want you to be the winner in practice and so he controls it. Sometimes the coach makes a terrible mistake but never ( and will never ) say so. So if he makes a mistake which is not in your favor, you will feel that you are running well and putting so much good effort and the time is bad and so you are put off. While if it was in your favor you will be very happy for something you never achieved and you might as well start lieing to your self about it and gain confidance but strangle, You never win meets!!! Thats most often the case.

LOL, I’ve seen these things happen a 1000 times! Cool observation.
And the effects on young athletes without unlimited selfconfidence can be quite drastic.

Does this .6 - .65s differential remain the same for distances under 60m such as 50, 40, 30, and 20 meters? Or would the differential be less like say .5 or .4?

Should be the same. You still have to start & stop the stopwatch.

Hard to say exactly as I had only the example of 60 and 100 times for the exact conversion to electronic but those worked well for my hand timing- which might be different from others’ timing. I would suspect that the shorter the distance the greater the percentage of error anyway. The main thing is to time consistently and use the same person to time all the time.

the camera method is accurate to + or- .02 if it includes the starter signal. If not you must add an assumed average reaction time.