Barry Ross on Ben and Maurice!

I must say that this is perhaps the most useless post i’ve ever read. I think your cocktail would render one into a drunken stupor.

Because the muscle will lose ability to produce and use elastic energy do to fatigue through intense and rapid eccentric contraction just as it will does with concentric contraction.

We’re not talking about top speeds alone. We’re discussing high speed running. To assume that all acceleration is from chemical mechanical work is ludicrous.

I’m not missing your point at all. I’m not agreeing with some of it. I don’t believe any amount of concentration on anything, up, down or sideways will allow an individual to produce that much force by any muscle activity at all.

Just as it is equally ludicrous to assume that all acceleration is from elastic energy.

For the record, I never even stated that all acceleration was from chemical mechanical work. And I did not exclude the use of elatic energy during acceleration. I simply stated that acceleration “does require chemical mechanical work.” Are you disputing this?

nope, nor did i say all acceleration was from elastic energy

Wait… let the slow minded ask a dumb question:

If no one is assuming that all acceleration is based on elastic energy, and no one is assuming that all acceleration is based on chemical mechanical work, and finally, no one is assuming that these two can’t work in unison… what are we disputing?

Dear friends, it appears… “by being so heavenly minded we have become earthly ignorant”! [borrowed phrase].

Good question! This is what I have been trying to get at.

It would be interesting to read about the other workouts. What spritning activities did she take part in? Can you provide a weekly overview?

Concentration on the optimal set-up for automatic force delivery will help, an attempt at delivering more force by some sort of voluntary effort while on the ground will hurt.

Bear,

Do you train sprinters and team sport athletes on the track, or are you primarliy involved in the strength training of athletes?

The reason I ask this question is that I would like to know how you train your athletes to sprint, as you seem not to use any cues for your athletes?

I do both :slight_smile:

We are disputing the where and the when of each, o slow-minded one :smiley:

Barry-
What is your track work like if you are lifting 3 days straight? Could you give us, if only a general sample, an example week of how you would place the elements on each day (Sprint work-speed/SE, weights/plyos, tempo, etc).

What cues do you use with your athletes on the track?

First and foremost, during the time I worked with Allyson we happened to work in the weightroom 3 straight days because it fit my schedule at that time. It was in the dragondoor.com article only because it showed that it was not necessary to “recover” between workout days if one doesn’t do a bodybuilding workout. I’ve had some work 4 days out of 5 and some 2 days out of 7. Depends on what we’re trying to accomplish and how much time we have to do it.

I don’t subscibe to the concept of speed endurance as it is generally used so we don’t train for it the general way.

Track running is based on specific time goals for repeats at different distances. We run fast all the time with the number of repetitions at any distance dictated by completion of the run under a specific algorithm-based time.

Like the weight room, we don’t waste time with meaningless repetitions or training to exhaustion.

As with Allyson, workouts are never longer then 2.5 hrs on weights and running days, with most of that time resting, and never more than 1.5 hrs on non-weight days. Training never exceeds 5 days per week.

The Meucci fr-4 because of the awesome blue color on the shaft. When you’re looking down that shaft and lining up the ball for the money shot…oops, sorry wrong sport! :rolleyes:

What do you use?

Your the expert,

You seem to be able to critisize other coaches cues, so you must have a superior method, just interested to learn more?

What makes bodybuilding workouts hard to recover from do you think is it the metabolic components?

I am actually very interested in your minimal time under tension idea. Do you think the less time you spend supporting the weight the easier it is to recover? E.g. a monolift squat rack automatically gives you an advantage cos you don’t have to walk the weight in and out.

Do you think all athletes could improve thier programmes just by cutting out unnecessary time under tension?

Cheers,

TC

Bodybuilding programs are specific to the sport of bodybuilding where muscle volume and definition are keys to success. True bodybuilders are masters at not only understanding muscle physiology but also working it to perfection for their sport. I think they are phenominal at what they do! It’s also instructive to see what they do to get a better understanding of what not to do if the goal is strength without mass.

The concept of minimal time under load is based on phosphagen pool regeneration. It’s recovery of the pool that allows for greater strength gains in shorter time frames. Coupled with the goal of not lifting to exhaustion allows for rapid strength gain with minimal mass. The strength is there but not the weight.

Yes, I think all non-bodybuilder athletes could improve their programs by watching time under tension.

A monolift squat rack is excellent, but the lift is not as efficient (or inexpensive) as a deadlift because it doesn’t include as many skeletal muscles.

I’m not trying to criticize what they do as much as I’m trying to understand why they do it. I don’t know if the method we use is superior to all other methods, but when someone presents something that is not validated by anything at all, then, just like you, I will question it. It’s the ridiculous and/or contradictory answers that become annoying.