In an article by DB Hammer ‘Pick Your Poison’ at EliteFitnessSystems.com, the author suggests that 'Auxometronics (AMT) Training for lower body power is more beneficial than olympic lifting for most sports/virtical jumps/increasing squat PB.
Q. What exactly is Auxometronics and has Any body used it. (The article is over my head/vague)
I read the article and it seems like modified shock plyos with weight. I don’t mean to sound close minded, but this seems to have all of the pitfalls that the author outlines in the beginning of the article about Oly lifts. From a CNS/recovery prospective, i think this is a bad idea. All of that eccentric…:o
I know this is an old thread but having just read it again after having familiarized myself with DBs methods I can tell you that AMT used in conjunction with his Autoregulation system(Dropoff Method) is no more demanding than any other training. For example I can do power movements to a 4% dropoff every 4 days to make consistent progress. To regulate AMT all I would do is establish my max vert for the training session, and test after every rotation(sessions are done in a circuit). Once my vertical is 4% less than it was when I began, I stop doing AMT for that session.
Of all the things he has introduced, autoregulation is something that everyone can and should look into IMHO.
Well they are very advanced and shouldn’t be used unless you have progressed up to them right. The progressions are at the bottom of this article (the three phases).
Understanding that it’s a progression is important. The first time I heard of them I had visions of Lebron James in my head and simply started straight off with the AMT work. I’ve since realized how dire my power absorption ability is compared to my power production and how I have a longer road to get to even testing them correctly than I thought. I’m looking forward to it though.
Yeah the progression is definately key. I myself started with ADA(4:1), then went to RA(4:2), next Ill move onto AMT ADA, then finally AMT jumps. Im stil trying to figure out the best way to implement AMT since I work out alone. I think I might end up using some sort of hybrid, alternating reps of ADA AMT and RA. Hopefully some of the training effect will carry over. Or possibly using higher band tension to compensate for the fact that Ill be holding the bands in my hands and wont get the full acceleration all the way through impact. Any suggestions from those familiar with any of this?
What scientific evidence does DB hammer have that says AMT’s are better for power than the OL’s? On top of that has DB ever used the OL’s in his training and if so does he know how to teach them correctly. Finally does DB realize that there is over 100 different variations of the OL’s that help athletes develop a multitude of motor abilities!!!
They’re just overspeed depth jumps. Even the most hardcore OL guy has to see the value in those. If you do not, then read Medvedyev and see him talk about the Russians using depth jumps to improve both the snatch and clean & jerk.
I have read it numerous times and no they dont use depth jumps to improve the clean and the snatch, they use them to increase the motor ability of speed-strength, which is just one of the motor abilties used in OL’s. They use the 100+ assistance excercises to improve the clean and the snatch. On top of that I asked how are depth jumps better than the OL’s as DB says?
I don’t believe they are the same. You’ve used bands before, you should know this
the accleration makes it different, the senses, the brain and CNS react differently when you getting propelled downwards rather than free-falling down at the speed of gravity
It is not the same as falling from a higher box. A higher box means more Force will be abosrbed, but the rate of absorption will be the same. The bands increase this rate of absorption AND the Force created. Why is the rate important?? Well think of a guy on a fast break with a defender a step behind him. Both have the ability to reach the top of the box, but the offensive player can jump twice as fast as the defensive player. That all adds up to a very embarrasing facial.
Now the argument comes up, why not just to the OL’s with lighter weight and faster?? Well what most people fail to realize is that the integral element of an OL is the catch phase. These athletes ability to catch a large weight and stabalize speaks numbers to their ability to display force in other ventures…ie, vertical leap. However though they are using more weigh and aborbing more force, they can not increase their ability to abosrb these forces any faster than gravity will allow. Hence bands will increase FORCE and POWER.
I know it feels different, but IMHO the training effects are the same if you hit the ground at the same rate whether it be from bands or a (much)higher height. What really matters is absorbing the force, not the drop itself.
You just made the point for yourself. Falling to the gorund and being thrown into the ground by bands are two different things. Yes both absorb force, but falling doesnt take into account that this force will be absorbed at a much greater rate. And since every action has an equal and opposite reaction, faster absorption means faster rebound. Make sense?
What you said is true, if the bands are applied throughout the entire absorption phase of the depth jump. However, it is my understanding that DB’s AMT jumps are performed by releasing the bands as the athlete touches the ground. If that is the case, then the downward acceleration immediately returns to 9.8m/s^2 and it is no different than if you simply stepped off of a higher box.
If instead, you keep the bands on through the entire absorption phase of the landing, then the acceleration would be increased beyond the acceleration provided by gravity and this would require the athlete to display greater force.
I don’t think AMT’s are “better” than olympic lifts…all I’m saying is you’re getting into semantic BS if you don’t think depth jumps are valuable and olympic lifts are the optimal method for training every damn strength quality.