It was Ryan Scott. I believe Harry doesn’t clean due to the issues he has had with his back in the past.
In terms of doing those cleans immediately prior to the final, how does that work? I ask, because 5 mins sounds a little too close to me in terms of a facility to do that when there are first calls and final calls etc.
Donavon did 8x1 power cleans after the first round of the 100m in Atlanta. The idea came from there therapist. The muscle tone wasn’t right. Interesting enough the same therapist now works for Sharpova, and gets $10,000 a day.
I see no reason why Dan should be telling different things.It could be just for Donovan or standard practice, who knows…I don’t remember who said that, but coaching is actually History!
Here is the quote, from Dan:
In '96, when people saw what we were doing, they thought I was insane because Donovan did like 8 sets of 1 olympic lifts right after his quarter final round. And they were heavy, like 120-130kilos and people had thought I finally lost it all the way. And I wasn’t drinking then either!
155 kg?
holy shit, i thought my 140kg pb was good for my weight…damn.
who was that?
It was Ryan. How heavy are you? 140kg is good lifting no matter your weight I believe! Unless perhaps you are 140kg, but then you’re no sprinter!!
haha true, ive seen ryan before…how tall is he again…
i weight 75kg myself…but still, 155 is super good…
I would guess he’s between 5’9 and 5’10. If you’re cleaning 140kg at 75kg that’s pretty damn impressive. That’s Jason Gardener type figures! Are you from Britain yea?
Maybe - i don’t know?
With the amount of injuries Dans team suffers… Sure he gets dudes fast - but what about the room full of lower leg injuries he produces too just to get there.
Its always interesting to hear what others do - but - if they allow too many injuries creep into a system, ill stay with where i am!
So, take the Cleans with a grain of salt - if you do a good proper Taper done right, you don’t need these drastic “power cleans” done the day before! It could have gone either way - and i bet, you wont hear about how many Bum out from doing such.
That sums up your post.
Dan’s success and the progression of his athletes speaks for itself.
I wouldn’t say that Dan wasn’t doing things right in this situation, after all DB broke the WR the following day! I had also read that Donovan did a few heavy (90%) singles on the squat prior to the final in Atlanta. Personally I feel that such methods do work but are also highly individual in prescription and nature. For instance, I get a substantial potentiation effect from power cleans that manifests itself 6-8 hours later in the day. Obviously Donovan responded well to certain methods of potentiation and I’m sure that Dan planned the use of the cleans or squats based on prior practice and effectiveness with Donovan. What I would like to know is the rationale with the timing of the cleans, i.e 5 min. after the race rather than another time later in the night?
As an aside, I’ll never forget watching Donovan run the rounds in Athens 1997. First round he must have had a reaction time of .3 or above! Absolutely was left in the blocks to the point that it looked intentional. Then in the quarterfinal he finished as if he was injured with a scream and a limp off the track. The NBC commentator was certain that he wasn’t going to be able to run the semis the next day. Fast forward 24 hours and Donovan is running 9.9 in the semis with a smile on his face and nearly takes the gold in the final if not for the emergence of Maurice. It was entertaining to say the least! Does anybody know any of the specific details of this story?
He never mentioned anything about the squats, so that may just be some myth or something he hasn’t spoken of previously.
I don’t think it was 5 minutes after either as Dan says they did a shake first. Also remember the situation in Atlanta with security and such. Dan said they didn’t have room for plyos or medball throws, but they could do olympic lifts in the short time period that had (escorted by security back to their hotel).
Did he give the impression that he would have used plyos or med ball instead of the cleans if it would have been possible? The squat story was from the old forum, I believe it was 10x1@90%.
haha - this is my point exactly!! Was it Squats as well, was it cleans.
Was it infact the day before, or did he mean “a few” days before
Perhaps somebody who knows Dan - Not, Knows a friend of a friend etc. Needs to get it down in black n white.
After all - there are many reports out there, that BJ :DID do them squats, and some sources Sound very creditable. … But i got it in black n white, from Cf, He did not.
youve got no idea what you are talking about
Actually two Australian coaches spent the last month with Dan and they both verified Donavon did 8 x1 power cleans after the first round of the 100m in Atlanta.
the room full of lower leg injuries he produces too just to get there
I was not aware of that, can you name them?
In the two seasons I have been with Dan I have not seen a single one, but I was not there continuosly, so I might have missed them.
you wont hear about how many Bum out from doing such.
In fact, it’s something to try, it either works or doesn’t. Like Darrell Smith once wrote me, some get more effect from squats, some from power cleans. Personally, I get nothing from PC, I get more from plyos and even better from heavy squats.
I get a substantial potentiation effect from power cleans that manifests itself 6-8 hours later in the day.
When you get the potentiation very much depends on the loading variables.
Perhaps somebody who knows Dan - Not, Knows a friend of a friend etc. Needs to get it down in black n white.
I have a file with exactly what DB did in the 11 days before the Olympic final, but Dan didn’t tell me about the lifts on the race day. I know for sure that DB lifted the day before the first two rounds.
Did he give the impression that he would have used plyos or med ball instead of the cleans if it would have been possible? The squat story was from the old forum, I believe it was 10x1@90%.
Reply With Quote
From a personal communication:
We always try to do Olympic lifts the
>day before a competition, normally 6-8 x 1-2 reps at 90% +…if not
>available we then try to do jump squats with 50-60% body weight @ 4-6 x
>8-10 reps…if all else fails then we do multiple throws and or jumps…
You really have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
If I have audio from Dan where he says that this is what he did, he must be lying, huh?
Let me guess though, he’s ruined so many athletes, it must be irrelevant.
I guess you could say the same about Angela?