The thing we are all on here to do is to learn from each other and Charlie. I have had the luxury of being in both Ian King and Charlies prescence many times. Both are brilliant, and are managers of the training process. If crap training is okay, then why do so many pro’s pay the fine to train with great prep coaches? I guarantee if you put James Smith at Michigan, they would still win, but 1)injuries would go down, 2) you wouldn’t scare off players who don’t want to be abused, 3) I propose that your athletes would perform better.