5x5 in the Max phase

How does RDL differ from a full Deadlift in CNS recruitment? Cuz’ I’m probably just gonna work on RDL and skip the regular Deadlifts and Squats for a period of time. Maybe Charlie could fill this one in for me! :slight_smile:

Yes you are right,every training plan is very individual,i mean everithing are important for one strenght plan-age,strenght level,training age and offcource genetics.I hear some weightlifters do 60 tons of weight training per day,the coach Abajiev do 3 training sessions per day(but this is his metod of adaptation)Somebody tell this 3 trainings per day are to much but this athleetes take to much steroids,suplements,nutritional and they recovery very quickly…but everithing is adapted your body to this 3 trainings and weights in every training session!!(sorry for english again)

For me strenght its not= the muscle size,muscle size its not important for muscle strenght.For me they are diferent,when you training whith weight for 1-3 reps you training CNS and this muscle fibres for strenght not for muscle size,some bodybuilders just pumped weights and do 15 reps,they have big muscle but not to much strenght,Charlie is expert and make tell something interesting for this!:cool:

Yes you dont make do 5 sets with 100% of weights,because you not recovery creatine level if you do every set for 100%,but for 1 or 2 sets you need to do 100% set,maybe 1x5reps(60%),1x5(70%),1x5(80%),2x5(100%).I tell you again how you do max strenght ,when you not do set with 100%?!Whith reps under 4 you training CNS and your strenght,not your muscle size!IF you need muscles do 8-12 reps…:cool:

Thanks for the response :cool:
I’ll keep that in mind! Well, if you did not read the posts I wrote before, I said that I’ll have a 3 week GPP (3x10), Accum phase 3weeks (4x8) and a 7week (including 1recovery/unloading) Max Phase (5x5). Do you think it would be a good idé to do the first 3weeks of max with 5x5, and the second with maybe 5x3?
Cuz’ I’ve started 5month ago with squats, bench and so on. But this summer I did almost everything under 5reps and heavy loads. This was probably not the best choice since I’m quite new to lifting, and thats why I’m periodizing it like I just wrote, to accelerate gains and get some more muscles.

I dont now how many kilograms of muscle you have,but you are new…5 months are nothing,you not have training age and for you 5x3 its not very good idea,the chance of injury is to high,and dont do many 100% lifts,only 2 set.The new not have good technic for lifting.Do 1x12(80%),1x10(80%),1x8(85%),1x4(90%),1x4(100%),you need to build good technic,if you not have good technic injury is to close,and when you do this you make do sets with 1-3 reps on 100%,for now you do 4-5 reps,3sets max in the max phase and not all 100%,only last 1 or 2 sets(warm good before any exercise)…the other gays here in the forum make you tell something new,read and see what is better for you and dont afraid to do experiment try something new…peace:cool:

Originally posted by monson
For me strenght its not= the muscle size,muscle size its not important for muscle strenght.For me they are diferent,when you training whith weight for 1-3 reps you training CNS and this muscle fibres for strenght not for muscle size,some bodybuilders just pumped weights and do 15 reps,they have big muscle but not to much strenght,Charlie is expert and make tell something interesting for this!

No I think u misunderstood me. There comes a certain point in a person’s training career where they will be as strong as they are gonna get at a specific bodyweight. At that point the only options are to stay at that same bodyweight and strength, or put on some more muscle through a hypertrophy phase and retrain your CNS at your new body weight

You are right!!Now i have a my problem with body weight,i do big muscles and i want do something. I build muscles and strenght but i dont now how to rebuild it?I am 186sm,94-95kg want to do 88-89kg.I stop lift the weights and i see what hapening,mayby i loose strenght but its not problem.

Im confused? are u saying u have hit a wall? or that u are trying to lose 5kg and increase ur strength.

Yes i want to loose 5 kg of my muscles,the strenght dosnt matter…i have to much muscles and want to loose this 5 kg and i have strenght i do 150kg bench,its not problem to loose little strenght.I not feel good when i run with 95kg!!

id say run until ur body burns some of the muscle off and then from there dedicate urself to CNS training and ull keep that weight off and continue to build strength. Also lower ur caloric intake

You mean i do sets with 3-4reps no more or what?And i run on track and i need of calories,how to recover my body only with protein?

i do mean stick to sets in the low rep range, but the only way u are going to shed muscle weight is to not to give ur body what it needs to maintain that muscle

By the way, if I do Clean Pulls on Monday, will they interfer with doing Chins or Rows on Tuesday?

I’m gonna lift lower body and upperbody twice per week during GPP. Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri with Wed as Tempo.

Any critque on my upper body days? As I said before, need to add some mass to my whole body.

  1. Benchpress 3x10
  2. DB row 3x10
  3. Arm Circuit x 2:
    a) 10 Bicep Curls
    b) 10 Triceps Extensions
  4. Abs Circuit x 2:
    a) 15 Med ball Reverse crunches
    b) 25 Sprinter Situps
    c) 20 Med ball Seated rotated twist
    d) 25 Toe Touches
  5. Tempo 20sek@65-75%, 30sek rest x 8 on bike

The abs workout is good but the other exercises are not so good I thing.The only power exercise who build strenght and mass for upper boddy in your program is bench press.I thing you must do other exercises who build mass and strenght for upper body i mean-clean,snatch(for this 2 exercises you need a good technic and good warm up),millitary press or some showder press,chins or lat pull down,lower back extensions(this you make do with abs in superrsets)and then if you want do exercises for biceps and triceps(standing barbell curl is heavy exercise and for triceps some exercise with barbell-french press or cabell,or bench press for triceps)but the arms are not very important I thing.You dont need of big arms…this is it…try if you want but do first heavy exercise and then others…1-snatch,2-bench press,3-millitary press, and then the arms exercise and if you want do one day snatch the second day do clean!!!

Yes man I try to do a good diet I start with 95-96kg,after the diet 90,but then finish the diet and I am again 95kg and i nave a good definition,low body fat…I have 95kg good muscle and for me only way is to stop muscle hipertrofy.the training with 3reps is not good for me because any lifting pumped my muscles dosnt matter how many reps I do…I lifting weights for 10 years and not so easy to stop hipertrofy…

Okey, but I forget to mention that the other day of upper body I do Benchpress and Chin-ups instead of rows, and on the Lower Body days I do Clean Pulls (Power Clean without catch phase from hang position). That hits the shoulders as well so I thought I wouldn’t wanna drain the shoulders with 4 days per week. But you still think I need more shoulder exercises on upper body days?

I thing yes!You need to training showders with one exercise in one of the two upper days,you make use millitary press or some form of press for showders!

Okey :slight_smile: What are your thoughts on this routine:

Tuesday / Thursday

  1. Benchpress 3x10
  2. Chins x 6,5,4 / DB Rows 3x10 (different days)
  3. Circuit x 2:
    a) 15 Med ball Reverse crunches
    b) 10 Biceps Curls
    c) 25 Sprinter Situps
    d) 20 Med ball Seated rotated twist
    e) 10 Triceps Extension
    f) 25 Toe Touches
    g) 10 DB Military Press
  4. Tempo