40 yard dash

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@Charlie_Francis

Longer runs, consisting ideally of runs from an easy accel into a speed zone (easy 25y into a 20y max or 30 yard sub-max speed zone) can definitely help but the trick with the big guys is to keep the longer vol down with total recovery to play to their strength as much as possible.

I agree, I know Dan went out to 90m with bigger guys, I wouldnt go that far.

[Charlie_Francis]

@James_Smith

Well, we are both speaking from experience so there’s never any disputing what actually happened.

Furthermore, and equally as important, or perhaps more important from a theoretical standpoint, is that the training effect of the flying sprint is physiologically undeniable with respect to its effectiveness as a speed development drill.

The training effect of the flying sprints can be two fold:
1: The increased capacity for 40y by increased high speed distance tolerance (single and multiple), stretching the energy envelope just to the right of the event itself.
2: The increased capacity for 40y by increased speed, stretching the EE just to the left of the event itself.
While both can play a role, 2 will be far more important, especially for the big guys, because:
A: top speed occurs well within the 40y run itself, directly affecting the time, while backs may achieve top speed beyond the 40y mark therefor affecting performance indirectly.
B: Power will always predominate over SE with both groups but especially with the big guys.
So often the big guys are subjected to gassers which I find counter-productive.

[James_Smith]

@Charlie_Francis

The training effect of the flying sprints can be two fold:
1: The increased capacity for 40y by increased high speed distance tolerance (single and multiple), stretching the energy envelope just to the right of the event itself.
2: The increased capacity for 40y by increased speed, stretching the EE just to the left of the event itself.
While both can play a role, 2 will be far more important, especially for the big guys, because:
A: top speed occurs well within the 40y run itself, directly affecting the time, while backs may achieve top speed beyond the 40y mark therefor affecting performance indirectly.
B: Power will always predominate over SE with both groups but especially with the big guys.
So often the big guys are subjected to gassers which I find counter-productive.

Agree on all points.

While I’m as opposed to gassers as you are, the thought of them being eradicated from the training of American footballers might come around the same time as the death of the sun.

[aggiestrength]

@Charlie_Francis

The training effect of the flying sprints can be two fold:
1: The increased capacity for 40y by increased high speed distance tolerance (single and multiple), stretching the energy envelope just to the right of the event itself.
2: The increased capacity for 40y by increased speed, stretching the EE just to the left of the event itself.
While both can play a role, 2 will be far more important, especially for the big guys, because:
A: top speed occurs well within the 40y run itself, directly affecting the time, while backs may achieve top speed beyond the 40y mark therefor affecting performance indirectly.
B: Power will always predominate over SE with both groups but especially with the big guys.
So often the big guys are subjected to gassers which I find counter-productive.

This is what I was looking for, so a big/combo player will reach max speed within 40, but a skill player might not due to their better strength to body weight ratio, however, both athletes should try and accelerate for as long as possible and let physics based on power output and good technique (proper body angle progression) dictate when top speed is reached, correct?

[Charlie_Francis]

@aggiestrength

This is what I was looking for, so a big/combo player will reach max speed within 40, but a skill player might not due to their better strength to body weight ratio, however, both athletes should try and accelerate for as long as possible and let physics based on power output and good technique (proper body angle progression) dictate when top speed is reached, correct?

A good summary.

[Charlie_Francis]

@James_Smith

Agree on all points.

While I’m as opposed to gassers as you are, the thought of them being eradicated from the training of American footballers might come around the same time as the death of the sun.

Naw. Gassers will stop first cause the linemen will be vaporized during their last set of gassers just prior to permanent sunset.