I have posted captures of an article on the training of Jon Edwards triple jumper. I posted this because I was intrigued by the similarities in some of the approaches taken by Carl Johnson ( J Edwards coach) and Charlie’s methods.
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Table 1: Jonathan Edward’s training 1995 (Loadings in Kilograms)
January
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16 Some indeterminate lifting
17
IS 19 20 21 22
23 Snatches
Test 74kg 11 5% body fat ratio - 67 sit ups • 48 press ups - I3.71m overhead shot throws - 3.85sec 30 m –
2.99m standing long jump
24 long lump
2$ Clean 115-high snatch 75
26
27
28 29
30 Fly to Tallahassee
31
February
1 Clean 3x6x85 • high snatch 3x6x55 bench 3x6x60 + 6x50 m
2 Endurance bounding (sets o( 12 repetitions] •circuit
3 4 x 130m
4
6 Snatch 3x6x60 - high clean 3x6x90 bench 3x6x60 - Jumping routine from 6
7 5x 50 m fast
8 Clean 3x6x90 - high snatch 3x6x55 - bench 3x6x60 • 5x50m relaxed
9 3x12 hops right and left 3xi2 steps - no hop stop since legs sore attempted circuit felt faint
10 Snatch 3x8X60 • high clean 3x6x80 bench 3x8x85 x 5x140m
II 12
13 Clear 3x6«90 - high snatch 3x6x55 bench 3x6x65 + jumping session off 6 « 14.70
14 4 x 50 m last (legs sore)
15 Snatch 3x8x60 - high dean 3x6»80 x bench 3x6x60 • easy strides Endurance bounding + circuit
17 6x130m relaxed and last
16 High clean 3i6<85 - bench 3x6x65 – abdominals because ox restricted facilities
19
20 Clean3x6x90 • highsnalch3x6x60 bench3x6x70-|urnpng session off 6 & 10
21 Racket-ball
22 Snatch 1x6x70:2x6x65 - high dean 3x6x80 -bench 3x6x70 + 4x50m relaxed 90% effort
23 Endurance bounding • circuit
25 26
27 Leave Tallahassee
26 Arrive UK
March
1
4
5 6
7 Clean 4x4x90 - high snatch 4x4x65 - bench 4x4x75 • medicine ball work
8 6x 100 m 80% In snow
9 Snatch 4x4x70 • high clean 4x4x95 • circuit
10 5 x 60 m fast (quiet tired) ++ jumping session from 6 • 14.60.19 20: 14.80: 15.05
11 Clean 4x4x100 – high snatch 4x4x65 • bench 4x4x76 12
13 Snatch 4x4x70 - high dean 4x4x95 - bench 4x4x7S
14 6 x 100 m
15 Clean 4x4x100 - high snatch 4x4x65 - bench 4x4x75
16 Circuits
17 6x60m (jumping session 1500: '60S IB Single back injury
19
20 4x100m (back sore + ham twinge)
21 Test- 74kg-12.5% body fat ratio-68 sit ups-53 press-ups - 3.02 standing long jump
24 5x 60m ++ 16.60m from 10 very flat + test completion 15.25 overhead shot-3.62 30m
25 Light lifting session
27 “Working weights back jn” - bench 4x80 - 3x85 • 2x90 - 1JC92.5 - 1x95 (fast)
26 Snowing - short indoor bounding session
29 High dean 3xftO/6S’W • snatch 360 65/70 . 6 « 60 m re»axed
30 6 60m*-Circuit! 31
April 9
10 Clean 3x3x115 {very explosive) - high snatch 3x3x75 - bounding (some fatigue after Saturday)
11 6x60m
12 Snatch 1x3x80:2x3x82,1 - bench 3x3x75 • high dean 2x3x105 + stndBs {sliQht quad twinge)
13 Circuits
15 Bench 1x3x87.5 - easy dean and snatch
16
17
18 Test - 71.12kg -10 1% body (af ratio - 72 sit ups - 57 press ups-15.18 overhead shot throws - 3.54 30 m •
3.06 standing iong jump
19 Test 90 snatch & 100 bench (no (ails) * easy strides
20 Circuit test including Ergojump which ruined legs
21 Sore legs wiped out jumping session
& lifting session
23
24 Ciean 4x110 3x115 - 2x120 - 1x125 - 1x130 -bench3x3 (2) x90 + hurdle bounds & strides
25 2 X 60 m easy + 4 x 60 m fast
26 Snatch 3x3x82 3 - high snatch 3x3x75 • hurdle jumps + skill session on arms
Circuits
28 Jumping session 63.5kg couldnt jump because bad position at take-of1:14st- 16,50: 16.30; 16.30: 16,30: 16,30
29 Clean 3x3x115 - bench 3x3x90 + strides (fatigued)
30
May
1 Snatch 3x3x62.5 • high snatch 3x3x75 • hurdle Jumps 6 strides
2 5 K 60 m test (very good)
3 Clean 3x3x115- high clean 3x3x105 (both good) t-hurdle jumps & strides
4 Circuits (2 x only not loo wet) 5
6 Snatch 3x3x62 5 - bench 3x3x90 + hurdle amps
7
8
9 High snatch 3x75 - 2x77,5 • 1x90 • 1x82.5 * 5x50 m
10 Clean 3x3x115- high ciean 3x3x105 (adductor stiff)
11 Circuits X 4
12 Bench 3x3x90 ++ jumping session 10st 15.60: 16.10 (several run-throughs) 14st 16.65; 16.60 (legs tired)
13 Snatch 3x3x82.5 - high snatch 3x3x75 (very tired)
14
15 Weights lest clean 132.5 & bench 102,5 (slow)
16 Test - 73kg - 9.6% body fat ratfo - 73 Sit ups - 62 press ups -15.33 overtiead shot ^rows • 3.59 (outside cold)
3.14 standing long jump (fatigued)
17
16 Circuit test
19
20
21
22 Snaich92.5 bench 4x85 • 390 2.95- 1x100-1x102.5 hurdle jumps & strides
23 4x60m
24 High clean 4X100- 3x105 -2x110- 2 lei at 1i5 (mentally slack) + hurdle jumps
35 Circuit
26 Jumping session 't4st 16.45: incomplete trial: incomplete trial: 17.05: incomplete trial: incomplete trial
(635-4 «5,«.05)
27 High snatch 4x70-3x75-2x80’1 x8S- bench 4i$S- 3x90- 2x95- 1x105 (fall) • 1x105
28
29
30 30 m 4,12 - 60 m 6.94 (4.08) - 60 m 6,91 (4.05) - 60 m 6,94 (4.07)
31 Clean 4x115-3x120-2x125-1x130 (lat)- 1x130 (ret)
June
1 Circuits (very stiff)
2 Jumping sessron I4st 16.55:16.70: incomplete trial - 18st 16.50:16,70: incomplete trial very fast (still sti^
3 Snatch 4x80 - 3x62 5 2x65 - 1x90-1 dose fail M (w good)-bench 5x85-4x90 - 3x95 • 2x105 - 1x107.5 *
4 Stretching (good]
5 Ciean 5x110-4x115-3x120-2x125- 1x130- rx;32.5 - (very very good) + hurdle jumps & Strides
6 30m 4.04 -eOfti 6.87 (4.01)(10.45mps)-60m 6.84 (4.02)(10.64mps)-60m 6.95 (4.06)(10.38]
7 Snatch 5x75 - 4x80 - 3x85 • 2x90 - 1x95 (fail) 1x95 (excell«it) -<• few Strides
8
9 Clean 5x110 -4x115 -3x120-2x125- 1x130 9am training (physically & mentally low)
10 Bench 5x85 - 4x90 - 3x95 - 2x100 - 1x105
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Hi Martin,
I have heard “stories” about j.e. doing 150 cleans, and from these logs it seems plausible (out of comp). Not bad numbers considering his bodyweight, but his SLJ seems a little off given he is a jumper (3.15 max?? thats pretty average for a jump trained athlete isnt it?).
Thanks for posting this, mucho interesting!
Joe
A 3.15cm standing long jump was obviously good enough to become the greatest triple jumper ever! Highlights the rather weak relationship between standing long jump and triple jump performance.
Well it maybe due to co-ordination not doing the exercise in that manner that often…
Martin, do you have a link to the original PDF’s? Thanks.
YES thanks to Kitkat’s postings he provided the link. You can access the ENTIRE IAAF New Studies in Athletics archive here is the link
http://www.iaaf.org/news/Kind=2/newsId=37068.html
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The elastic strength development of Jonathan Edwards year 1996 volume 11 issue 2
Hi Martin,
Yeah, highlights the difference between long/short power development. Obviously triple generates enormous forces in an instant, most good SLJ people I have seen use deep knee bends.
Was just surprised thats all, given his clean numbers. Id love to see how explosive his cleans were. Its too bad youtube wasnt more popular in 1995
Joe
There are as many differences as there are similarities? What key similarities would you highlight?
The use of strength training as a general load that will not affect the development of speed and power was the main similarity that I thought was pertinent. The realisation of both coaches that the opinions of their athletes count, example CF listened to Ben’s request to ditch 300m SE runs and Jon Edward’s dislike of any distance further than 200m was taken on board by Carl Johnson. The use of mainly 60m sprints to develop speed. Elements of bodyweight circuits as a feature. These are the few similarities that i hav noticed apart from those that i consider to be accidental…
Very explosive, very fast, both cleans and snatch. Trust me the programme Carl presented was not bogus. My squad work in the same gym that Jonathon worked in and we saw him lift on numerous occaisions. For his build and bodyweight he was a tremendous olympic lifter. As far as I know he probably didn’t do the SLJ that often which will most likely account for the low test score. His strength was his ability to maintain his speed throughout the 3 phases of the triple jump due to his fast contact with the track. He did something we all agree on - high quality low volume track sessions, maybe not with the really long recoveries advocated on this site but long enough in his case as acceleration was the main emphasis.
Hi Phil,
I can imagine how fast it was, given his tremendous power on the track. If you watch good (3.50+) SLJ guys, its deep knee bend, full flexion-> full extension… much slower than the triple/olympic variations.
I might have to put a force/velocity meter on some SLJs and compare, it would certainly be interesting to get some numbers looking at where SLJ stands in comparison to other lifts/sports from a power/velocity perspective.
Joe
We used to test the athletes at our are squads for force applied and contact times and height achieved on various jumps using a force mat. It was interesting that Jonathon did not have the best score on some of the tests. This was accredited to a junior long jumper who has not competed for a long time, both of them were pretty damn good though. This was prior to his world record year.
I agree and I also think it’s important to see what is emphasized in training and why. Compare this to the Russian approach.
From what I understand, his running long jump was not that spectacular either (have to check my biography on JE to see what it was). But I’m sure it wasn’t any further than 7.60m.
JE’s training shows us that some things he does are very specific, while other things (Olympic lifts - quite good for his body weight) are used for general stimulus, as Charlie has pointed out on numerous occasions.
Hi Phil,
care to share some examples? I would love to see some testing numbers of guys like JE.
Joe
Yes - I would be curious to see if his results (Ground Contact Time - GCT) were different over jumps that were more vertical in nature than horizontal in nature. I assume the long jumper would be better at converting to vertical, while JE would be better at maintaining velocity for horizontal jumps (bounds, hops over distance).
More interesting in his case, not just because he’s WR holder, but because he does less bounding, meaning that what he has in terms of abilities will be those most critical to the event itself.