What is so special about this drink? and why wouldn’t you consume more carbs to promote recovery?
Why it is special-
(1) The first reason is the protein and fat combination tastes good. A tropical smoothie is better than a tuna smoothie! Fats have special roles and I think the lauric acid in coconut fat is very important for athletes.
(2) The micellar casein fights protein breakdown and the HMB supports the cyto-skeleton of the myofibrils when consumed in large doses (read twice or more a day).
(3) The research on body composition and casein protein is clear, and if need to be lean this is one part of the formula.
(4) The immunogrow is special and after asking a few big brains (I am no genious prophet, crazy or “mad” but not a genius) and the subtle growth IGF-1 response without the insulin getting elevated sounds paradoxical but happens. Also nutrient transfer helps here as well after about a month.
(5) This formula supports the post workout drink, not replaces it. The post workout formula I have constructed with the help of blackstarlabs does everything I need and I use this 2-3 times a week. That is the time for the carbohydrates. Growth is vital…but if your gains are being lost due to the catabolic effects of energy system training it doesn’t matter as much!
This is for swimmers primarily? - just wondering what body weight (about 170~ or so?)
- Do you find the extra 5 grams of Glut. makes a difference considering the profile of casein as opposed to Whey?
Having said that - if this is the last shake before bed the 5 grams of Glut should be a good idea.
The HMB - I can’t comment on, though I’d consider it a ‘nice-to-have’ rather than a ‘must-have’
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Is Immunogrow a BSL’s product or a US off-the-shelf product?
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Any need for Vit E as well?
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I guess some Ecto’s that are trying to gain more can even just throw in the whole 'nanana?
(Sorry for all the questions by the way Clemson)
Ok No23…good questions.
Who is it for? Athletes doing doubles or more (such as gpp work). Swimmers benefit year round.
I find the extra 5 grams helps for only very intense training with high volumes. If the volume is not high but not intense, drop the glutamine since it is found readily.
The HMB is nice to have since the primary requirements are casein, immunogrow, and coconut milk. The formula is not cheap but not expensive to the point that it is costs too much for the regular guy.
The entire formula is found at blackstarlabs customizer area and I used the fruitropical flavor since it works well with coconut milk. I know try to consume coconut milk more because the oil is hard to integrate unless you are cooking. I suggest people warm the oil up and use water as the base for shakes if you can’t get the oil. Goya is not bad though…it is a B to a cocogems A.
I dont’ think a ectomorph should use carbs in the meal…they may get away with it being lean but the insulin rising effects chronically render post workout formulas weak.
I like to consume vitamin e the hour after meals…this makes it easy for me to keep athletes organized.
Post-workout is the growth zone and this formula supports and stablizes that growth. I will post (no pun here guys) my post workout formula.
Here is my challange…this summer will be a period of gpp for athletes…mix a five pound bag of the forumla above and got to the supermarket and get a can of coconut milk from a spanish company and tell me how it goes.Blackstar labs can help you with this and they have done it before.If it doesn’t make an impact on your training I will make you a lab lounge member for free…speaking about lablounge got to go back to quest diagnostics for the latest results of the blood work.