SPP1 for Ice breaker meet

You are correct. Here is one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVz9FVIGbE

In my opinion we should treat the 3 point start as a one of many coaching tools is coaches arsenal to develop and reach desired outcome. I can see 3 point start as a good exercise when we want to develop arm clearance, its just easiest way to do that when body weight is distributed between 3 points leaving us with free hand to pop and trigger the process.

As Angela has mentioned above “you need to back up a little bit” med ball throws OHB, BLF, Hop Throw, Double Hop, Triple Hop throw for height and distance are great development tools.
From my observations young athletes cannot hit the right angles/ position and accelerate effectively due to insufficient levels of strength and at the same time power. Whats your power levels like? 4kg med ball OHB, BLF, standing long jump?

Anyway, there is plenty info for you to make you think about the next necessary step to improve.

regards

I think more to the point is this is Carmelita Jeter doing 3-point at the 2011 World Championships. Notice that she is doing 3-point with a practice block right next to her:

//youtu.be/xM8UwdTgv68

Derek pointed out a couple of years ago that Charlie only used blocks in specific start practice because general use of blocks in training takes too much out of you. And for that reason many sprinters use 3-points for much of their training because it has much of the feel of block starts but isn’t as hard on you.

Here are Yohan Blake and Warren Weir pulling sleds from 3 point on grass (start at 4:30):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sIPQvGPAEw

My week last week (GPP for indoor):

Tue: 4X4X30 from 3 pt on grass
Thu: 4X4X30 from 3 pt on grass
Sat: 6X60 steep hill from 3 pt

No blocks, no track, almost all on grass.

Haven’t seen that clip of her. Wow, amazing knee drive.

She’s definitely close to 45 degree trajectories for like the first 6 steps too. Wow. I need to learn how to do that lol.

[b]You are right about the blocks taking much more out of you than the falling start which is what we did unless we were trying to " fix " something or illicit a particular mechanical function of that individual. For example I do not remember doing push up starts much at all but I did a lot of other drills that others may not have needed to do.

I asked for clarification regarding the 3 point start as I was not sure. Thank you for posting an example.

We never used the 3 point start ever. It was never taught and I have not ever seen any of the former Mazda track people use it.

I was taught to do the falling , bent knee start as a preference if possible to all other starting methods.

Why?

It’s easy to do and to repeat . The physical cost is low and if you have all people doing the same start method , as a coach you are able to compare.

Blocks were used to improve block starts so usually the work was done with blocks as competition season came closer. For example one week before competition is too close ( if something goes wrong , then what? ) but maybe 6 weeks is reasonable. 8 weeks might be too far.[/b]

Monday 9/29 Slow tempo 4x4x100 + Epsom salt bath + massage

Tuesday 9/30 - HI

did 4 med ball jumping throws before doing starts

3x10 fall
4x20 fall
4x25 fall
3x30 from a 3-point and timed just to make sure I wasn’t trashed or anything - 4.35, 4.35, 4.37

30s were better than last time, still not up to par, but of course, they’d be faster out of blocks. so I was OK with it.

then, 4x10 fly. I felt lighter on my feet afterwards, which is always a good sign.

Next HI will be Friday. I plan on doing as much tempo as I can manage tomorrow, and I’m thinking a lower volume of tempo + pool for thursday.

Was that 4 ( 4 x 100 meter) = 16 x 100 meters?
How did you do that?
What was the rest between sets?
What was the rest between reps?

Yup.

Just extensive tempo. 30s b/w reps, 2mins between sets. Straightaways.

I did the first contrast shower I’ve had in a while last night and it felt really good (after! lol). And I really got some good, restful sleep.

October

10/1/14

1800m tempo, stretch

3x4x100 tempo + mobility exercises in the pool

almost at 5000m tempo for the week

Well whatever I’m doing isn’t working so something needs to change.

Why do you think it isn’t working?

and w don’t you think isn’t working, appears a sudden and strange comment from no where.

Uhm, well, let’s see.

I don’t think 4.4 by 30m no reaction time is gonna cut it.

Have you had an unloading week? Maybe you still haven’t recovered from the massive volume you did in the beginning. Also, it’s probably time to put more emphasis on speed now, since you’ve been doing 10-30m for quite a while.

I would do a very easy week (maybe just one HI session with very low volume) and then cut down on short accelerations while increasing the focus on speed work (still keeping the total volume below 400m per session).

“A warrior does not give up on what he loves…”

Don’t be a worrier. Be a warrior… :wink:

By “speed”, you mean fly’s? 30-60m??

And what do you think rep / volume wise

I would do something like this:

HI day 1: acceleration, but gradually moving out in distance, e.g. 2x10, 2x20, 6x30 in week 1 and 2x15, 2x25, 5x35 in week 2, etc. Notice that the number of runs decreases as the distance increases to ensure the overall volume stays within reasonable limits (around 300m per session for blocks starts).

HI day 2: Speed, ie EFE, FEF, flying sprints with gradually increasing acceleration limits to build intensity over time. While intensity is low you can do about 7-8 of them (each one being 60m long) per session, but once you’re at maximum speed I’d only do 5-6 per session.

Every 4th week should be an unloading week with reduced volume and/or intensity.

I would try to plan things in such a way that you’ve had at least 3-4 weeks of having run at full speed (both from blocks and flying sprints) over 60m before your first race. I’d also plan an unloading week as the last week before the first race.