Simple weigths program

not promising anything, but if you are really interested in their cycling programme as well, i might be able to find it from a friend of mine…

i suppose you are, but it might take some time; i’ve asked already and waiting

if you don’t hear from me for some time, send me a PMessage!

hope i can get it and post it in the forum…

That would be great. I’m patient. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the great information!
Interesting enough it appears no MAIN (w/heavy weights) pulling exercise is in the program,as all the pulling seems to be of an assistance nature and done in higher rep ranges with lighter weights.
Is this correct? And if so might this choice be related to the nature of track cycling?

perhaps, if you want to be that specific; correct cycling technique does not require any “pulling” of the pedals -i can’t think of any other movement of this kind in cycling- or at least, it doesn’t offer any advantages;

perhaps amos would be a better person to comment on this…

…I was actually thinking right the opposite… but I do not know much about cycling!

Actually they not not search anything specific to cycling movement in the weight room. Specific strength is worked on the bicycle.

Well I do all of my racing on the road and have only been on the track a few times since no track is close to where I live. With track cycling the rpm’s are very high 120-160 for the events. Most of the events range for duration between 10sec to 4:30 min. I would think that the sprint events (200 meters timed, world record just under 10sec similar to the 100 meters in running) would have similar requirments for training as training for the 100 m in running. There are some relay type events for sprinters the difference from running is that all the riders are on the track at the same time rather then being spead out and the baton being handed off to the next person.

As for why there are no pulls in the program I can’t think of a good reason, I use them myself. I can see the reason for the rounded back deadlift, in general the lower back gets very tight from cycling, and also the hamstrings get shorter since they are not used in a full range of motion ever. I use rounded back deadlifts as a theraputic exercise to counter act the tightness, by chance I bought Tommy Kono’s book on Olympic lifting and started to use this after reading it.

Some other things I noticed about the program is the deep squats personally I think this is a better way to go for cycling given the limited range of motion that the quads go through. The low number of reps for the abs is a little bit of a mystery to me, though from my own experiences not unusual given the high workloads that cyclist normally use since there is no eccentric work involved in pedaling most of the time the real limiter is energy, you feel too tired to do more work.(there is a canadian cyclist who races on the road who uses high reps for abs 800 a day).

Also as a side note to Charlie the world record for the 200 meter sprint distance is held by a Canadian rider Curt Harnet set in 1996 in Bogata columbia.

Why are abs exercised first, because it’s normal to leave them to the end?

Maybe it is a part of the warm up.

I find it interesting that Ischios curls are used as well as deep squats since deep squats hit the hammys as well.

Any particular reason for this? Ideas would be welcome…

my understanding comes from a review article by Coyle (1990), where any pulling of the pedals offered no advantage (e.g., normal training shoes vs. cycling ones); downward pushing, yes

not that i know about cycling any more than you do…

is there high ab involvement in track cycling? and perhaps they are “left out” in the gym, since they are worked during the sprints? just a thought…

thanks for your input! good to hear from someone doing the actual sport… :o

that’s a good point! perhaps they want to use/train the hamstrings in another way, not found in cycling itself; as a counter- movement perhaps… :confused:

There could be high ab involvement for abs for the initial jump for sprintng but after the first few strokes I would say that abs mostly are only slightly activated(I have never had sore abs from cycling) though I have seen riders that look like there upper and lower bodies are connected by a elastic leading to a lot of wasted movement. Glad to see some people are interested in cycling besides myself. I do try to incorporate the CFTS principles into my training. :slight_smile:

cycling is great!
since you speak from experience and ab involvement is not great and the biggest emphasis, i understand, goes to the lower back -even i have felt that- perhaps why bother with it? up to a point, of course…

PS i see no reason why not using CFTS ideas to other sports! i know people who do…