Rouge Serret smashes PB with 10.17 - fifth fastest Aussie ever.

yes, I do …

174cm & 78kg according to his bio and that looks about right

closer to 170cm and 70kg… pretty norm to buff up your numbers on paper. :slight_smile: small guy only, those numbers match up with Ato and Green, Aarron is much smaller in mass and height then those two.

A few coaches I’ve spoken to are packing a spirit level and 100m tape measure next time they head over to Perth. The drop in times at Perth against their normal performance is apparently averaging around .2 of a second. This has been noticed across different age groups and different abilities, which while the variation is greater among the slower athletes, the average appears to be roughly the same.

Great time though.

One would think faster Australian athletes would be a good thing, guess not everyone has the same opinion.

Is one perhaps misinterpreting the posts of others?

Jumping to conclusions maybe, for what purpose would packing a spirit level and 100m tape measure next time they head over to Perth hope to achieve?

everyone doesn’t run fast in Perth relative to PB, its usually the sprinters with good S/R who benefit most.

It was a tongue in cheek comment that reflected the skepticism with which many are regarding the times that are appearing out of Perth at the moment.

Consider these facts:

  1. There is yet to be a major event in Perth, o there has not been a gathering of a top field; yet
  2. 12 of the top 20 times posted in Australia this year in the 100m have been run in Perth.
  3. Of the remaining eight top 20 athletes, none have run in Perth.
  4. Of the 12 that have, the average difference between their next fastest, (non-Perth) time, is approximately 2/10th’s of a second.

It pays for coaches to be objective about these things, so that they do not garner an unrealistic idea regarding where their athletes really are at, and to enable the management of expectations of athletes at future competitions (EG, “How come I train so well yet I am not improving on that time I ran in Perth?” etc). It is a problem that many coaches often want to take the credit for the entirety of an athletes performance or improvement in performance, when there are in fact often many contributing factors. This will generally yield an unrealistic assessment of their athlete; if there is a significant, single contributing factor the distortion will be amplified.

I sincerely hope there haven’t been any conversations similar to this one:

Clarke and Dawes “The Games”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teoL6FKEtCY

It’s actually an entirely new track at a new sporting complex in Claremont (not Perry Lakes), so we are only talking this year.

from the series on the abc, it was good for a laugh

Yes, an all time favorite! I don’t think there’s anyone that can deliver dry humor quite as effectively as John Clarke.

Roy and HG is the other olympic tv show that stuck in my head, remember the interviews where Green & Bolton were telling each other what they were doing.

Surely the WA stadium has a surveyors certificate, good winds, why not.

The Games.

Come on guys it’s a bit of a joke that everyone goes to Perth and runs a pb. The winds are great, the track is new, it’s slightly better oriented for the wind I have been told so no wonder they all run fast there.

Oz Nats there in 2 weeks or so so no doubt there will be more fast times but look how fast everyone has run when not in Perth, a good 0.15s slower. PJ one week 10.18s with a nice +1.5, then 2 weeks later 10.34s with a +0.6 in Sydney.

Good luck to them I say but I wonder how many athletes will get near these times in the rest of the year if ever? (unless they are back in Perth…)

This has turned into an interesting discussion…its like this Perth track is the holy grail for sprinters. Okay i understand some comments may be tongue in cheek. But let me see if the athletes are 0.2s faster and turn up and run another 0.2s faster at their championships are they now not 0.4s faster or do we take the previous PB that was only 0.2s faster or do we look to the previous PB outside of that not in Perth. I wonder in this case who gets the accolades the athlete, coach, person who laid the track or is it an alignment of stars. These poor sprinters are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. With respect to the example above the 10.18s (1.5) v 10.34s (0.6). Equated for wind that difference is closer to 0.1s and considering the time difference and travel between seems like a fair enough back up run. I suppose we can all look forward to Bolt running 9.38s and Jeter 10.44s…props to all these athletes running fast. How about we encourage them to build more of these facilities so more athletes can run fast, after all isn’t that what its all about.

So , I guess not many of you know the famous Rieti track…in Italy, usually your SB ins 15 hundreths faster than any other:)

Track more about lies, errors, and b.s than actual performance. There are so many BS times/distances in the world of track&field it is sad. I am not taking anything away from Serret, I’m just talking in general. I will be interested to see what he runs the remainder of the season.

Dazed

The same “story” goes around here too. Some sprinters I know have been talking “the Perth talk” for some time. I have not been there yet but .20 gets mentioned by those that have.

Until this run PJ’s time was the fastest. What was his time run immediately prior to Perth, and also his time in the next race after Perth? One of the sprinters I know will run in Perth at the Nationals for the first time. If he betters his PB by .20 or more, my athletes will run in Perth only. :slight_smile:

edit; Oh, I see PJ has already been mentioned. Did not read that until now.

Interesting now we have moved on to times that may actually not be valid and that tracis all about likes, errors and b.s than actual performances…ha ha ha. Funny…when Michael Johnson ran 19.3 in Atlanta no one was going on about how he had broken his PB by 0.3s and lets just see if he can run as fast at another track. I am pretty sure no one was implying the performance was BS. Everyone was going nuts and thinking wow what can humans potentially do. When Bolt did the same in the 200m and smashed his PB in Beijing by possibly even a larger margin we weren’t getting down there with a spirit level and a tape measure. Nor were we looking towards the heavens to see if Pluto was inline with the moon. An individual has run fast and its seems people want to look at reasons for why it can’t be…and yes as Eroszag has pointed out there are plenty of fast tracks including Rieti, Athens, Indianapolis, Seoul, Bern you name it where performances year in and year out are super quick. Anyway like I said great job to that guy and lets hope he gets an invite to Rieti however, I am worried what people will say if he runs 0.15s faster ha ha ha ha :wink: