Trying to find my throw-up bucket…
And I was agreeing with you even dumberass, then went on to point out the drill is not being done properly. Apoligise if too high teck.
Hi John! Yes, but no longer than 5 minutes JUST !!
When I first came up with this type of exercise it came under the heading of plyometrics. Stage 1 is a static hold and is stopped the moment form is lost (the lady in the vid never has form according to me). I could hold it for over 5 minutes but the sensation of electric shocks in the quad for up to 4 days after convinced me it worked better as a step to the next exercise rather than the exercise itself.
A young lady I worked with spent 3 years training under Adrian Faccioni and she rang him to ask if he would access her, I have never read faccioni but I was flattered when she said I had taken his work one stage further.
Why would anyone one open a workout with a 5 min static lunge??? That whole thing was a train wreck Got to go with ESTI on the Freak of Training vid. Some wild stuff to watch. Apparently, Archuletta was made of steel because Schroeder couldn’t break him.
Haha, stop associating me with Evo-sport.
What is that? People actually do this?
This video is very close to what Jay Scheoder showed in his DVD and other training videos I have seen.
Yes - it’s astounding. I equate it to all the deviant things we now see on the internet. Did people perform all that deviant stuff before the internet, and it was just that we didn’t hear about it? Or has the interent spawned the growth of deviant behavior? I believe it is a bit of both. Stupid people doing stupid things, and a bit of exhibitionist-copycat behavior. Same thing is happening with training people.
Needless to say, I need to start charging people more money for good training.
Throwing a freakin 45 pound plate at each other! Sounds like a good way to lose a toe… Dropped a 10 on my foot once and was limping for weeks
But bob, you’re missing the single most important characteristic of a football player:
The best part of that whole clip, IMO, is that he states that his system is designed to make you fail.
I reckon they did, all you need is a video camera, and hope the people you are videoing don’t know you are there, cause if they do then you get jack Sit:)
Wonder if they hold a medicine ball above their head when doing tempo. Better still use a 45lb plate that way the weaker ones will toughen up real quick or get left behind for the ambo’s.
I do believe the theory of force absorption and force production is solid. The means to achieve it may be questionable.
I think the risk:benefit ratio is too high for majority of exercises. Do we really need to jump off a 4 ft box and land in lunge stance??
I feel variants can be used. I have used some picked up from Carolinaadi (if he still is around here). They are on a much less risky scale.
My experience is most athletes, especially higher level ones, can produce incredible amounts of force, but have major difficulty absorbing what they can produce.
I have noticed this. My vertical is pretty good but nothing spectacular, and I find the landing after a full jump to be considerably more difficult to absorb the force than it is to produce it.
can you share something?
Some years ago I experimented with (min) falls from a box, sticking the lunge position. They were from 30-40 cm. My force absorption definitely improved. Simple exercise, no risk.
I do not like the lunge positions. The trunk angle is too erect for those positions when changing direction etc.
Doing drops from that heightt of box and landing in a squat stance I do like. I also like leaps from one leg to the next with focus on sticking the landing. From these there are dozens of variations.
Tend to agree with you, A lunge has a purpose in the weight room, not as a shock absorption exercise, I suggest running into a brick wall will serve that purpose.
As a lead up to plyometrics using the rudies and based on a biomechanical theory, the most force is produced in the mid range of joint/muscle movement. Starting with the rear leg_ the foot is to be at 90’ to the floor on toes, the lower leg is to be parrallel to the ground, the thigh is to be vertical (majority of weight to be on this leg) trunk to be slightly forward, upper leg to be parrallel to floor, lower leg to be vertical to floor, heel off ground, weight on ball of foot, hold for no more than 8 seconds. The first sensation will be I am falling sideways. When that is mastered you change feet, next do so at speed with no vertical movement. There is a progression to plyos starting with boxes then up to 6 hurdles (over 2m apart swapping legs rudie style in the air landing on opposite leg)
Pull me apart.
In team sports the lunge position frequently occurs. Just think about all the descents from jumps. You land either on one foot or in a jump position. As I said, I found that exercise had benefits, and without being overly specific, I liked it better than ending in a squat position. Height was low, so basically no risk. It also helped in a second phase to accelerate out (when force absorption improved). Nothing particularly original, but pretty effective (context-dependent). As for low-impact plyometrics, I think that jumping rope for 30-60 s intervals with an emphasis on a rapid spring action is vastly underrated (it depends on athlete’s qualification and sport, of course).
Not sure i have ever ended up in a lunge position in sport…