The fear is that our SUVs and J Crew budgets will be lower…
These two articles present a nice big picture view and go well together if read in order:
An Echo, Not a Choice
http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north309.html
'04: The Most Important Election Is Over
http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north319.html
You know the best thing about America is that you can do something. So i urge you to get out and run for a political position, just remember you cant always get all your information from the media.
The media? What’s that? I haven’t watched TV in over 4 years.
“In . . . politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.” - Mark Twain
Besides, what kind of self-respecting anarchist would I be if I ran for office? I’ve got better things to do with my time.
“In my experience, only third-rate intelligence is sent to Legislatures to make laws, because the first-rate article will not leave important private interests go unwatched to go and serve the public.” - Mark Twain
“Few men of first class ability can afford to let their affairs go to ruin while they fool away their time in Legislatures. . . . But your chattering, one-horse village lawyer likes it, and your solemn ass from the cow countries, who don’t know the Constitution from the Lord’s Prayer, enjoys it, and these you always find in the Assembly.” - Mark Twain
You know the best thing about America is that you can do something.
I agree whole heartedly. Being productive in private life is doing something, which a lot of people around the world are not allowed to do. On the other hand, running for office and becoming active in public life is appearing to do something. Never the twain shall meet.
Drew Carey’s theme song at the end of which states, “Cleveland Rocks Cleveland Rocks Cleveland Rocks, Ohio”. I don’t know about you but Ohio definately does not rock. In fact, there the ones who got the U.S.A. all rocked out by voting in Bush. They got what they wished for, which is 4 more years of record deficits and another economy going down the drain headed for another possible resession. 
Hey at least we can see some more classic SNL Bush skits and impersonations. Which would mean 4 more years of good comedy and another 4 more years in which Michael Moore will make at least 2 more videos of G W Bush.
“The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected.” - Will Rogers
“With Congress, every time they make a joke it’s a law, and every time they make a law it’s a joke.” - Will Rogers
“The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn’t get worse every time Congress meets.”
“I don’t want to complain, but every time they build a tax structure, the first thing they nail is me.”
- Will Rogers
as a european i think the u.s is a messed up country with money over ruling everything.F*** the innocent lives at stake,just give us the control of oil and every other wealth that goes with it.the u.s is the land of the free yeh right if thats the case then why is this muppet back in control again.he couldn’t even run a successful oil bussiness and now he’s running the most powerful nation on the planet.what a joke!!!
this muppet has dragged other nations into the equation also.like britain who are scared shitless of a terrorist attack.people you are going to see alot of bad stuff happening in the future as a result of this mindless muppet who won’t give a shit about his land or his people.would he die for his country shit no he wouldn’t trust me when i say we a very near the stage of a world war.
A World War? With whom?
Which country is foolish enough to attack the USA 
Terrorism, possibly… World War, doubtful…
Don’t blame Ohio without proof that they actually voted for this guy. With electronic voting and no records- who knows? The fact is Canada can vote with paper ballots and a number two pencil, have no real linups, and get the results in a few hours- with proof!. The only reason for long line-ups is to drive certain voters away. This has always been essential for Republican success, as there are always more poor people than rich people, and, with few exceptions, each group is likely to vote in their own financial interests. In Ohio, the RNC arranged less machines for the districts where they expected trouble, creatig long lines, hoping people would give up or the poles would close before they could get there.
A travesty of justice, it is disgraceful that the US has the audacity to go around the world telling others to be more democratic when their elections seem so dubious, what a disgrace. There are definitely more poor than rich I can not believe that they would have swang so much in favour of conservatives who strive to curtail their right to social equality.
Without sounding alarmist or far fetched, I really do believe that US foreign policy and society can not function without some percieved greater evil such as Communism and now “global” terror.
A world war could occur not with any one nation attacking the US no one has ever started a World War that way. No, Iran or Syria or North Korea could precipitate a war. The Saudi Royal family is living on borrowed time since it has aportioned itself to 30% of its countries GDP. If the people decide to take what is theirs with the help of militants hardened by Afghanistan, Iran-Iraq war and recent conflicts in the Middle East, then we could see a situation where the US will have to step in to protect Oil interests. Now, the islamic countries around the world are substantial. A call to arms by their brothers could be sounded. Not to mention alot of countries that are PISSED OFF with US meddling and cow boy tactics. A world war is very possible in those circumstances. I think it could happen in the next 50 years but it will be a whole plethora of issues, shortage of water, food, land disputes, and definitely energy issues. Oil IS running short the Chinese are developing at an alarming rate eating into oil demand whilst at the same time deep well oil fields are running short. The largest oil fields in Saudi will close by 2030 not far away. Bush the giant penis refuses to develop alternative energy, what do we expect from an oil head?
A World War is possible. Humans have never develped a weapon and not used it on its intended scale to kill each other.
Originally Posted by scarface
A World War? With whom?
Which country is foolish enough to attack the USA
Terrorism, possibly… World War, doubtful…
were have you been for the past few years.9/11 how long did it take the “muppet” and his crew to catch the organisation involved and still to this day people are living in fear.people are fed up of helping and in turn getting the side effects involved in helping a nation such as the u.s bush is taking on smaller nations to widen the bridge on terror so that they’ll get attacked first because they are far more vunerable on getting attacked.
he has the rest of the world as fools!!! test dummies for him
insightful, constructive discourse at its best
Shall we talk about religion next? That should be fun. What was that about the two topics to avoid in polite conversation?
And you thought the debate about general versus specific strength training was heated.
Mirror.co.uk
Nov 4 2004
GOD HELP AMERICA
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
THEY say that in life you get what you deserve. Well, today America has deservedly got a lawless cowboy to lead them further into carnage and isolation and the unreserved contempt of most of the rest of the world.
This once-great country has pulled up its drawbridge for another four years and stuck a finger up to the billions of us forced to share the same air. And in doing so, it has shown itself to be a fearful, backward-looking and very small nation.
This should have been the day when Americans finally answered their critics by raising their eyes from their own sidewalks and looking outward towards the rest of humanity.
And for a few hours early yesterday, when the exit polls predicted a John Kerry victory, it seemed they had.
But then the horrible, inevitable truth hit home. They had somehow managed to re-elect the most devious, blinkered and reckless leader ever put before them. The Yellow Rogue of Texas.
A self-serving, dim-witted, draft-dodging, gung-ho little rich boy, whose idea of courage is to yell: “I feel good,” as he unleashes an awesome fury which slaughters 100,000 innocents for no other reason than greed and vanity.
A dangerous chameleon, his charming exterior provides cover for a power-crazed clique of Doctor Strangeloves whose goal is to increase America’s grip on the world’s economies and natural resources.
And in foolishly backing him, Americans have given the go-ahead for more unilateral pre-emptive strikes, more world instability and most probably another 9/11.
Why else do you think bin Laden was so happy to scare them to the polls, then made no attempt to scupper the outcome?
There’s only one headline in town today, folks: “It Was Osama Wot Won It.”
And soon he’ll expect pay-back. Well, he can’t allow Bush to have his folks whoopin’ and a-hollerin’ without his own getting a share of the fun, can he?
Heck, guys, I hope you’re feeling proud today.
To the tens of millions who voted for John Kerry, my commiserations.
To the overwhelming majority of you who didn’t, I simply ask: Have you learnt nothing? Do you despise your own image that much?
Do you care so little about the world beyond your shores? How could you do this to yourselves?
How appalling must one man’s record at home and abroad be for you to reject him?
Kerry wasn’t the best presidential candidate the Democrats have ever fielded (and he did deserve a kicking for that “reporting for doo-dee” moment), but at least he understood the complexity of the world outside America, and domestic disgraces like the 45 million of his fellow citizens without health cover.
He would have done something to make that country fairer and re-connected it with the wider world.
Instead America chose a man without morals or vision. An economic incompetent who inherited a $2billion surplus from Clinton, gave it in tax cuts to the rich and turned the US into the world’s largest debtor nation.
A man who sneers at the rights of other nations. Who has withdrawn from international treaties on the environment and chemical weapons.
A man who flattens sovereign states then hands the rebuilding contracts to his own billionaire party backers.
A man who promotes trade protectionism and backs an Israeli government which continually flouts UN resolutions.
America has chosen a menacingly immature buffoon who likened the pursuit of the 9/11 terrorists to a Wild West, Wanted Dead or Alive man-hunt and, during the Afghanistan war, kept a baseball scorecard in his drawer, notching up hits when news came through of enemy deaths.
A RADICAL Christian fanatic who decided the world was made up of the forces of good and evil, who invented a war on terror, and thus as author of it, believed he had the right to set the rules of engagement.
Which translates to telling his troops to do what the hell they want to the bad guys. As he has at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and countless towns across Iraq.
You have to feel sorry for the millions of Yanks in the big cities like New York, Washington, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco who voted to kick him out.
These are the sophisticated side of the electorate who recognise a gibbon when they see one.
As for the ones who put him in, across the Bible Belt and the South, us outsiders can only feel pity.
Were I a Kerry voter, though, I’d feel deep anger, not only at them returning Bush to power, but for allowing the outside world to lump us all into the same category of moronic muppets.
The self-righteous, gun-totin’, military lovin’, sister marryin’, abortion-hatin’, gay-loathin’, foreigner-despisin’, non-passport ownin’ red-necks, who believe God gave America the biggest dick in the world so it could urinate on the rest of us and make their land “free and strong”.
You probably won’t be surprised to learn of would-be Oklahoma Republican Senator Tom Coburn who, on Tuesday, promised to ban abortion and execute any doctors who carried them out.
He also told voters that lesbianism is so rampant in the state’s schools that girls were being sent to toilets on their own. Not that any principal could be found to back him up.
These are the people who hijack the word patriot and liken compassion to child-molesting. And they are unknowingly bin Laden’s chief recruiting officers.
Al-Qaeda’s existence is fuelled by the outpourings of America’s Christian right. Bush is its commander-in-chief. And he and bin Laden need each other to survive.
Both need to play Lex Luther to each others’ Superman with their own fanatical people. Maybe that’s why the mightiest military machine ever assembled has failed to catch the world’s most wanted man.
Or is the reason simply that America is incompetent? That behind the bluff they are frightened and clueless, which is why they’ve stayed with the devil they know.
VISITORS from another planet watching this election would surely not credit the amateurism.
The queues for hours to register a tick; the 17,000 lawyers needed to ensure there was no cheating; the $1.2bn wasted by parties trying to discredit the enemy; the allegations of fraud, intimidation and dirty tricks; the exit polls which were so wildly inaccurate; an Electoral College voting system that makes the Eurovision Song Contest look like a beacon of democracy and efficiency; and the delays and the legal wrangles in announcing the victor.
Yet America would have us believe theirs is the finest democracy in the world. Well, that fine democracy has got the man it deserved. George W Bush.
But is America safer today without Kerry in charge? A man who overnight would have given back to the UN some credibility and authority. Who would have worked out the best way to undo the Iraq mess without fear of losing face.
Instead, the questions facing America today are - how many more thousands of their sons will die as Iraq descends into a new Vietnam? And how many more Vietnams are on the horizon now they have given Bush the mandate to go after Iran, Syria, North Korea or Cuba…?
Today is a sad day for the world, but it’s even sadder for the millions of intelligent Americans embarrassed by a gung-ho leader and backed by a banal electorate, half of whom still believe Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.
Yanks had the chance to show the world a better way this week, instead they made a thuggish cowboy ride off into the sunset bathed in glory.
And in doing so it brought Armageddon that little bit closer and re-christened their beloved nation The Home Of The Knave and the Land Of The Freak.
God Help America.
To any of you guys that dont think this world is a safer place without Sadaam Husien in power tell me why.
Safer for who? He had no wmd’s or biological weapons. Iraq was a crippled country due to santions imposed since the first Iraq war. He was a perfect scapegoat in a war against shadows. Bush and his croonies much have realised the fractioned nature of Al-Qaida. There is no specific target, you can’t place them in any particular location, then go in with all guns blazing and eliminate them. They are a global organisation, interspersed throughout society. Much easier to stick with old Saddam, convince the public he was a main conspirator in terrorist activities, then go after him. Saddam himself was not part of this ‘axis of evil’, though he was an evil son-of-a-bitch. The iraq people suffered terribly under his regime, now they suffer again under a new secular quagmire.
Iraq has done nothing more than serve as a prime recruiting ground for further militants.
The real catalyst behind this current climate has been pretty much avoided - Israel/ Palestine. As long as this goes on unsolved, further unrest will continue.