i meant why not weight train for speed?
are you saying that the amount of hypertrophy one has determines the limit of speed and force in muscle contraction?
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because you develop the RFD/speed end of the curve with sprinting and might I add(in the whole nature of sport specificity) that it is in fact specific to the sport as it is sprinting itself. So develop the other end of the curve with max strength training. That is the argument against speed lifting when sprinting or doing plyo’s, and I am in complete agreement with that and it has been my experience that this is the optimal means, that is to develop the complete opposite sides concurently.
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To an extent it is, but as I said a bigger muscle has the potential to contract with more force and velocity so why not try and develop the hamstrings, glutes, and spinal erectors in that fashion? ie. Look at the jacked sprinters in the recent olympics(shawn crawford, mo greene, asafa powell, justin gatlin, the guy from portugal), they dominated, while the skinny one(with a very respectable time) came in 5th. That is my argument, as well look at Ben…massive p-chain…
i’m not sure we disagree here. would you train differently for hypertrophy (myo.) than for power? if not, then it doesn’t matter.
ie. Look at the jacked sprinters in the recent olympics(shawn crawford, mo greene, asafa powell, justin gatlin, the guy from portugal), they dominated, while the skinny one(with a very respectable time) came in 5th. That is my argument, as well look at Ben…massive p-chain…
i thought powell came in 5th in the 100m. he’s a monster.
crawford is quite the physical specimen. i have to make the observation that his calves seem unusually slim compared to the rest of his body. does he have weak calves (compared to the rest of his body), or are they just small?
yes but look at the times, all the jacked sprinters ran sub ten…and yes if you look at all the sprinters their calves seem small in comparison, but that is desired as you cannot have too much mass or it will weigh down to much. As well its main action as i see it is the tendon stretching and shortening rather than muscle contraction(ie look at a cheetah, huge muscles up by the hips, tiny lower legs). And yes I would do it differently. Accentuated Eccentrics would be my choice, as eccentric actions target fast twitch fibres(hence it is myo hypertrophy) and time under tension can be lengthened to a great extent to cause this hypertrophy.
Hypertrophy is more about eating then it is training (in most people)
Overeating in the short term is more anabolic then weight training.
Don’t expect to grow any muscle if you’re eating an amount that causes you to lose bodyfat. (unless you are extremely blessed in the endocrine department, with naturally optimized stress axis, high testosterone, good insulin sensitivity, - along with having a shitload of dormant muscle cells).
smart eating can still provide for being lean…
Your muscles will not hypertrophy FROM OVEREATING!!! Hypertrophy is caused by muscle under tension, it is the eccentric part of strength training that causes hypertophy not eating!! Your muscles will STILL grow if you maintain a normal diet. The body becomes just that bit more efficient in using nutrients for building muscle. The strength training in itself will lead to an increase in testosterone, IGF and growth hormone!!! Body fat is not a prerequisite to hypertrophy, you do not have to eat masses of food to see hypertrophy!!!
doesn’t that suck?
Your muscles will not hypertrophy FROM OVEREATING!!!
Yes they can 
S.A. Jebb, et al., “Changes in Macronutrient Balance During Over and Underfeeding Assessed by 12-Day Continuous Whole-Body Calorimetry,” Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 64.3 (1996) : 259-266
Subjects went from a maintenance diet and were overfed for 12 days and gained an average of over 4 lbs lbm.
Here’s why:
G.B. Forbes, et. al., “Hormonal Response to Overfeeding,” Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 49.4(1989) : 608-611
well, that’s good news. i think i’ll order a pizza.
You might gain some muscle but you will also get fat overeating like that if you do it longer then a few days at a time!
The point is that the #1 reason people don’t grow is because they don’t eat enough. Muscle can’t be manufactured out of thin air it needs raw material and food is that material. But (for most people) it’s not simply a matter of eating maintenance calories and eating an extra 10 grams or whatever arbitrary amount of protein per day. On paper that theory looks OK but for the avg. person it doesn’t work really well in the real world. Calories do more then just provide raw material - they increase cellular hydration, swelling etc. and by being in a state of caloric surplus hormones that are responsible for an anabolic state are stimulated. A few grams of extra protein can’t do that. The hormonal milieu is just as if not more important as the training and this is also verified with research. This is in large part why bodybuilders bulk and cut with effectiveness and why those who attempt to remain super lean all year around stay the same size - regardless of how they train.
In the large majority calorie intake is the limiting factor for muscle hypertrophy. There are a few situations where this process is overridden though.
#1. An overfat individual (+12-15%) will be able to use calories derived from the burning of their own bodyfat to fuel muscle growth.
#2. Training newbies
#3. Some genetically gifted individuals natural endocrine status and nutrient partitioning abilities are so superior that they direct calories to muscle tissue so effectively that they can grow on a maintenance intake. (and yes, I’d say a lot of good sprinters naturally fall into this group)
The problem is avg people thinking they can emulate what people from the 3rd group can do.
So do you feel the eccentric loading phase or hypertrophy phase isn’t necessary? Should he just continue maximal strength phase with sprint work and eat over maintenance?
What Kelly has illustrated is the importance of caloric intake. A positive caloric balance must be achieved in order to experience significant hypertrophy.
Don’t mistake this fact to indicate that hypertrophy training is not necessary as long as you eat, eat, eat.
It is the combination of taking in enough calories and the optimal loading parameters which will yield the best hypertrophy results.
The only individuals who need not incorportate direct hypertrophy training are individuals who are looking to maximize strength at their current bodymass/bodycompostitino, or those who are attempting to reduce bodymass/while retaining as much lean muscle mass as possible.