Postures of great sprinters - web link

This looks like some awesome information on the postures of various great sprinters; Maurice green, Valery Borsov, Flo-Jo, Michael Johnson, Carl Lewis.

The only problem is, it’s in italian!

If there’s anyone out there that could still get the general grasp and explain, that would be mightily appreciated.

Click on this link and atleas have a look at the pictures.

http://www.netfriend.it/offlimits/home.asp?pg=501

Picture 11 is Sandra Farmer-Patrick, not Gwen Torrence! :wink:

Talking about “corva lordotica”, what about this one?

http://rapidas.webcindario.com/valeriebrisco04.jpg

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We have analyzed some mechanical principles of the fast race and have estimated the possibility that the human organism puts into effect of the strategies in order to obtain better performances, concentrating our attention on an anatomical zone that are the coxo-femoral articulation with of levers and muscles that gravitano on it. We have deducted that the speed can be conditioned from the position of these muscles and levers and in particular of the river basin that, with increasing of own inclination, can concur to obtain advanced performances. And we have found, through the analysis of iconografiche documentations and scientific studies, than this it is a peculiarity of the athletes of black race.

what, i dont get this hehehehhe

We have analyzed some mechanical principles of the fast race and have estimated the possibility that the human organism puts into effect of the strategies in order to obtain better performances, concentrating our attention on an anatomical zone that are the coxo-femoral articulation with of levers and muscles that gravitano on it. We have deducted that the speed can be conditioned from the position of these muscles and levers and in particular of the river basin that, with increasing of own inclination, can concur to obtain advanced performances. And we have found, through the analysis of iconografiche documentations and scientific studies, than this it is a peculiarity of the athletes of black race.

LOL!

Here is the right translation:
We have analyzed some mechanical principles of sprinting and we took into account the possibility that the human organism puts into effect some strategies in order to obtain better performances, concentrating our attention on an anatomical zone that is the coxo-femoral joint with the whole levers and muscles complex that are around it. We have deducted that speed can be conditioned by the position of such muscles and levers and in particular by the pelvis which, by increasing in inclination, may increase performances; and we found, through the analysis of the pictorial documentations and scientific studies, than this is a peculiarity of black athletes.

Are they saying that anterior pelvic tilt increases performances in black athletes? Where are their photos of jgat and asafa then?

Yes they are trying to say that…

This is nothing new. Just go to any meet an watch any fast runner of any race and they will have this “tilt” although it is more common in the black race. The curvature of the spine although is from various activities through out ones life; any numerous acitivities such as skipping rope as a child, but this curve of the spine is made more pronounced with this tilt of the hips.

it was always postulated that posterior pelvic tilt was the precursor to world class perforamances. With this study its a step up for me YIPPIE, anterior pelvis for the win.

I also have a anterior pelvic tilt :cool:

it gives us the hope

I don’t know where people get this, as you are not the first to say this. And this is not an attack at you but more of me voicing my confusion.

Posterior pelvic tilt is highly overrated in my eyes for sprinting. Yes, once top speed is reached sprinters MAY display either a neutral or posterior tilt, but not always. How many sprinters truly reach an erect stature with a resulting posterior tilt while sprinting? I’d venture to say much more sprinters are leaning forward the majority, if not the complete race. Even Michael Johnson, who ran erect as one could possibly be, STILL had an anterior tilt. So even being completely erect, a cue many use and a observation many use during top speed and to conclude if one has reached top speed, doesn’t guarantee a posterior tilt.

Other than POSSIBLY having a posterior tilt at max speed, what the hell is a posterior tilt doing for a sprinter?

Some anterior tilt puts the hamstrings in a leverage advantage, it’s advantageous for glute recruitment, more than likely glutes are dominant (as they should be) and also hamstrings. Just look at a person with some anterior tilt, their butts are jacked.

So why on earth do people deduct that posterior tilt is this great thing for sprinting?

Wasn’t one of the key findings of Ralph Mann’s work that top level sprint performances are exhibited with more of a posterior tilt than the lower level performers?

The factor here that some seem to be overlooking is that having any kind of pelvic tilt does not gurantee gains or losses in performance. Having too much of an anterior tilt is just as bad as having a posterior tilt. Too much of an anterior tilt and your glutes will not fire well, your hamstrings will be long/weak as hell (more prone to injury) , and your lower back will be tight and overactive.

I’m a firm believer that one should let their training dictate the body’s adaptations and in this case it is no different. Focus on your training and your body will acquire the most advantageous adaptation, in this case the tilt of the pelvis.

Just be aware that sitting in a chair all day will force your body to adapt as well, so be wary your training isn’t the only thing your body is worried about adapting to.

Maybe if you’re getting constant therapy and have very watchful eyes from a great coach. There is a reason why cues exist and all great coaches have to spend time working on athletes’ form. Even guys who minimize use of cues for technique and the like (like Charlie) do it.

But for top speed only. You do not see anyone not running with an anterior tilt. So what I’m saying is anterior tilt is much more prevalent during the course of a 100m race and is a necessity. I can’t say the same for posterior tilt. Maybe for elite performance, posterior tilt is a necessity with top speed but I don’t know. Considering Michael Johnson never had a posterior tilt, I feel like one can easily say it is not a necessity. For the very elite sprinters, I’m guessing most of them do reach posterior tilt, but for most a posterior tilt is not common.

As one of the posters mentioned above look at top sprinters and when they walk around they are in anterior tilt, not posterior tilt. I think that’s what a good deal of this article was talking about as well.

I understand what you are saying but my point was more along the lines of when one is walking around and or stationary. As in, don’t freak out when you discover you have a little more lordosis than most. This might be an adaptation your body has acquired that actually helps you run faster.

Little bits, understandable. We see people with massive kyphosis and locked pelvises trying to sprint and it isn’t pretty. Then we wonder why guys like Walter Dix don’t hold up at all. I agree that it isn’t the different between 11 and under 10 or anything like that, but it’s important, especially if you want an injury-free athlete.