Marathon Plan

Tue night, really got stuck into the Cupping, thighs, hip flexors, hammies and glutes.

Hammie issue feeling much better - but, still there.
65min session
10 x 300’s (on a grass paddock…)
Extreme wind
Done in 2 sets of 5
Avg recovery for the 1st 5 was around 65sec
Break for 10min - feeling rather La+
55 - I died badly
27 - 150m destroyed
28 - 150m

Just didn’t have it today - the wind was super strong

Then did 12min of throwing a mediball around


Recovery Jog
37min run
Avg hr 137

Hammies felt like lumps of cement as i took off - and though they improved, they felt more like wet concrete slurry … Both of them.
So, it’s 3 weeks till Pan Pacs - I feel i still need another SPP phase to really hit my straps.
I really feel under prepared to race my best. Sure, I’ll hit season bests - but, i feel there is still sooooo much more improvement just waiting to come out.

Fri A.m.
50min of easy running circuits - very stiff everywhere

Fri - P.m.
Big tempo workout - total 37min including warm up

Sat - off

Cupping - thighs, lower legs and hammies
Did the cupping on the lower legs and hammies by Sliding the cup along once it was ready (full of blood)
Worked a treat, esp on the hammies - removed hard knotts that have been there for, well, like ever…
Could touch my toes with Both hands with knee flat on the floor (1st time ever) - I also have very long legs.

Also at lunch time, i tested my PH levels, which is only a new thing, and they were way down, around 6.2. Should be around 7.3 - but the best over the last two weeks since started with the testing is 7.1 / 2
Ended up drinking 700ml water with 16grames of sodium bicarb.
1hr later - PH was back up to 7.3

End of day - ended up running a decent workout
10 x 300’s with recoverys based on HR - once it fell to around 135-140 - started at 48sec recovery, and by the last one, was 1min20sec
51 was perhaps the avg fastest time
a couple 52 and one 54
The last one, i took my JOGGERS off and ran 48 (such crap grass though, not doing that again there)

So, a pretty good session considering i was wearing heavy joggers instead of flats or spikes.

Sliding is a common technique with cupping, but I haven’t got it to work with the pump variety. It is especially good for scar tissue.

How fast did you do it??

(double post)

where did you guys get the cupping sets from?

I ordered mine online for about $80. they are pretty common…

ebay - i paid less than $30 including delivery…
1 - Lube up the muscle
2 - excess lube the front area of the cup (the area you’re going to be pushing towards)
3 - wait for the cup area to fill full of blood (oh, and take out that magnetic point if it’s in there)
4 - Once full of blood - very slowly, push - it could be as slow as 1minute to cover 1inch. - and hold on sorer spots or if blood flow stops.
5 - If you went slow enough, you should find, on 2nd passing, there is little resistance to pushing through, you can push the cup 1 inch in about 2-5sec or so now (which is good)
6 - from the bottom of the cup, push, not the top - though balance the top with a slight pressure. Push towards where you want to go, not downwards in an arc
7 - it’s interesting going over very hard knotts, or even going from say the calf muscle group into the Tendon

This is now my newest most favorite therapy :slight_smile:
It’ll be interesting to check with the Jade stone also - it’s magic, pics up any small pieces of scar tissue, easily.

no training

45min session
Running circuits - Aerobic

6 x 200’s - Jog back recovery (kk’s 200 plan)
Such a Crap paddock - the more it doesn’t rain, the crappier it gets… And the little hill at half way slows things down also.
Really, could only hit decent speed after half way (after the little hill) - Felt more like Tempo for the 1st half, then when the grass felt smoother = a noticeable speed improvement
Last time i did this session, La+ was screaming at me for ages afterwards.
This time, not too bad. Might have something to do with the 1st 100m of each rep being slowed down due to conditions hey…

6km run - 26min
Avg HR, 147, so mostly pretty easy

Fri a.m.
50min of running circuits

Fri p.m.
All up, 70min of training
1 x 280m Time trial (tis the biggest Flatest part of the park i could make)
The turn was ok during warm up speeds - but crazy tight at speed
And the grass is getting more torn up every week due to lack of rain.
Plus, hammie - nearly better, but still perhaps 95%
Time - 36;85 - which is a grass season best - and equal fast as Tartan best. (based on tartan 300m time)

Then ran some running circuits and tempo


Plenty of cupping therapy / massage and stretching
Then in the arvo
3km in 50min…
but, it was nearly all Drills and sprint type technical work

1hr track workout
3 x 400m (on tartan) - this is my 800m readiness program.
Was freaking out for about 1hr before this - and for just about every minute during… It’s been 12yrs since i last done this workout (visions of being very La+ sick still firmly in place)
Some pretty strong head winds along the back straight - and by the GPS - i slowed 5km/hr during those sections (on every rep, and some reps it lasted longer due to guts on the curve…

1 - 57.38
17min recovery
2 - 56.71
21min recovery
3 - 55.99

I feel - give me 6 weeks on working on these, i could drop 5 sec on each. Going on these times - I am not ready to race 800m…
And time has run out… 2 weeks to go before Pan Pac masters.

Hi Bold,

Are you suggesting that your 280m grass time correlates fairly accurately with your 300m tartan track time? This is interesting information. Sometimes when doing 5x200 on grass I have trouble knowing whether I should shorten the distance based on number of strides, or to back off on the time expectation.

Fastest season best for 300m = 39.29 4/9/12
Fastest season best for 280m = 36.85

36.85 divide by 280 and times by 300 = 39.48

I’m ready to knock my Tartan 300m time down a couple of seconds…

Got it! Thanks Bold!

45min of running circuits

I had a solid workout planned, but the park was taken over, and only had a small section to work with,
30min of running circuits

600m time trial
Warm up included a 200m to find my rhythm pace
Was just behind pace that i wanted at 400m - but at 400m, i was already feeling the effects of La+…
At 480m, the La+ had become unbearable… so pulled up at 500m
Not very happy
Due to the hammie issue - the only real La+ work i have done has been slower reps / short recovery. Or faster reps with longer recovery which don’t produce the required La+ buffering.
Found the times
200 - 28.34
400 - 30.05
100 - 15.66

My La+ tolerances at speed OVER 40sec in duration is almost non existent.
Hammie is about 98% better now.
I have time to knock out another 3 La+ sessions before Pan Pac Masters.
Fitness is there, speed is there - just no La+ tolerance

Fri am.

40min of running circuits

Sadly - i also thought i had 2 more weeks from today - but, it’s only 1 week away… (pan pacs)

Fri - pm.

vo2max workout
Found a new park, it wasn’t flat, not by a long shot, but, it did have a cement walking path that was a large circle, around 220m around (no straights)

43min all up workout, then abs and stretches
5 laps, then 2laps recovery. Lap times - 37, 40, 39, 40, 41
4 laps, then 1.5laps recovery. Lap times - 37, 40, 42, 43,
3 laps, then 1 lap recovery. Lap times - 37, 37, 39
2 laps, then 1 lap recovery. Lap times - 37, 37
1 lap. Lap time - 33

Often during, as there was 6 of doing this, plus an old couple walking, plus a guy with a dog on a 2m long leach… I would have to run extra wide, typically twice on each lap, sometimes very wide (hence why the laps are fairly inconsistent)

Sat and Sun

Weekly total - 4hrs and 1minute

300m time trial (on tartan)
Very windy day
According to GPS - which averages speed over what appears to be 5sec
I hit a max speed of 35.35km/hr
The problem being, i hit that speed in the 1st 150m, then died badly in the last 100m. Real badly…
Just need to get my pacing over these distances and i’ll be sweet.

10 x 40sec tempo runs (not sure of distance, there were two sharp 100deg turns which slows things down to a slow jog…
with around 60-90sec recoverys.
Pretty easy tempo, no drama

Pan pacific Races start
Sat = 800m
Sun = 4km cross country
Mon = 1500m a.m. - 60m lunch - 400m about 2pm

Pan pacs
Age group 35-39
We ran two groups together, also 30-34 (the outside 3 lanes were all doubled up, so 11 starters)
Came 4th over line, and 3rd in group
Complete lack of racing and i let it slip around 220 to go
About 3min after race, started coughing like a dog, this lasted 1\2hr or longer and non stop. Then continued all day but only every now and then.
4km cross country
No big hills, no flat areas either. Just constant up or down.
It sure took it out of me, the constant pace changing
The last 1km was pretty horrid
4th overal (every age group in bunch start) and 3rd in catagory

1500m is today.
Woke up exhausted
Calfs are sore to walk so cupping till they came good.
Still, a good warm up and should do ok??

Good job on the two bronze medals. I’m not sure if I would do the 1500 with sore calves, but I would definitely not do the sprints. This is an injury waiting to happen, most likely an achilles injury which may take forever to fix.


Cupping did a fairly good job - got me around the 1500m - although not fast… 1st two laps were good, then around 2 laps to go, the legs had enough - finished 4th in 4min 34
1st two guys ran 4min 15’ish - i was right on their shoulders(basically in lane 2) till legs started giving me curry
The two sprints - well, i’m now 200km away… So no chance of running them :slight_smile:
As soon as i woke up this morning, i’m like “hmmm, looks like no sprints today” - as soon as i finished the 1500m, i’m like, “not if they paid me”

The feeling i got from this carnival was
It reminded me of when i first started track - it’s all good fun, it hurts, but - felt Slow… Even worse now, as i used to run OK (800m in 1;51) Now i’m like a rank beginner
The good news - I raced a few others who were ex fast, eg, 1:47 800m guy and i was only a few seconds off him. And nobody really blew me away that puts me off

There don’t seem to be many who make it through all their events at these masters things…

On sat, before the race - I was stressed out to the max. Not for nerves for the races, but, driving for a few hrs in stupid traffic (with three kids), ordered a coffee and it took 25min…
The start was delayed 40min. Seems everything i did that day before the race, involved Delays outside of my control - and it started to piss me off…
And i don’t think i really recovered from that point on.

Tue - Wed - Thur = Days off. Getting therapy cupping and it’s working a Treat.

Fri - “ran” around during morning training, more really just showing a couple of new girls how to train, just enough to flush the legs out.
Might do the same this arvo? or might just have it off…

Writing up goals for the next 6 x months. Ending with a 10km run as part of a triathlon team (an event we have won as a team for the last two years)
Goal will be as close to 30min for 10km as i can.
Main volume work will be race pace training intervals.
200m at 36sec
300m at 54sec
400m at 72sec
600m at 1min 48sec
800m at 2min 24sec
1km at 3min

So example - doing a workload of 6-8km
Cycle 1
30 x 200’s at 36sec with 36sec recovery
Once mastered, move onto
cycle 2
20 x 300’s at 54sec with 1min recovery
Once mastered, move onto
cycle 3
15 x 400’s at 72sec with 72sec recovery
Once mastered, move onto
Cycle 4
10 x 600m at 1;48 with 2min recovery
Once mastered, move onto
Cycle 5
10 x 800m at 2min 24 with 2:24 recovery
Once mastered, move onto
Cycle 6
8 x 1km at 3min with 3min recovery

So - that gives 1 month to master each cycle and include a deload week before the main 10km

Each week - include a Fast 280m or 200m run

Each week - include a Time trial over various distances - eg, 2km, 3km, 4km, 5km, etc - am thinking - to organise a group of runners and run it Handicapt. eg, the slowest starts on Zero, and the fastest might start 15min later. With the goal we all cross the line within a few seconds of each other

Each week - include One long run (this might include a few bursts at race pace, but without letting the Heart rate get into La+ zone)

The other thing i’ll be training acording to my body PH levels. (acid or base)
so example,
If i’m struggling to get out of Acid and into neutral (7.2-7.3ph) then i’ll run it easy.
If i’m around the right zone (7.2-7.3ph) then i’ll do a work set.
Hard La+ training will create lower PH - or more acids.

So - each cycle starts with Harder La+ sets,
an example,
30 x 200’s might be too hard ATM - so it might be, 3 sets of 10 reps ATM - and producing La+
But, by the time i’m running 30 x 200’s it’ll be much easier, and therefore Less La+ -
So -
More La+ means ill be running these during the week maybe 2-3 times
As i adapt, and they become easier, and more aerobic, I’ll be able to do them 4-5 times a week
As such
Cycle 200’s
Week 1 might see say 40km weekly total
week 2 might see say 50km
week 3 might see say 60km
week 4 mgiht see say 70km
week 5 = deload - 50km
New cycle (300’s)
week 6 mgiht see 60km weekly total
week 7 mgiht see 70km
week 8 might see 80km
week 9 might see 90km

Or week 6 might re drop back down to 40km? or 50km? It depends on the Acid/base balance and recovery.

A sample beginning week might be
Mon - Recovery day or OFF / swim
Tue - 3sets of 10 x 200’s
Wed - 2 sets of 12 x 200’s and 1 set of 6 x 200’s
Thur - Recovery run / swim
Fri - 280m Time trial - 3 sets of 10 200’s
Sat - 3km time trial
Sun - Long 1.5hr jog with 10 x 200’s with longer recoverys, perhaps 5min

And then by the end of the 1st cycle
mon - recovery day or off / swim
Tue - 1 set of 30 x 200’s
Wed - 280m TT with 1 set of 30 x 200’s
Thur - revovery day
Fri - 1 set of 30 x 200’s during a 15km run
Sat - 5km tt
Sun - 1.5hr run, with 30 x 200’s during the run - eg, 30min run then 30 x 200’s, then 30min run