Kevin Tyler on Tyler Christopher

how long is he going to be banging away on a sore hamstring? he is the world champ not some throwaway weekend warrior for christ’s sake.

I’m sure that Adidas would have been highly perturbed if Jeremy had not run today. :wink:

they would be even more pissed if he tore his hamstring and couldnt run at this summer games.

I’m sure that they were convinced that this wasn’t going to happen. The earlier than normal move was for a reason.

dude you never know with a hamstring, if that was the case you would never have injuries.

He’s been running on it for a few weeks and it hasn’t gotten any worse. Doubtless they have a very good physio looking after him as well. The risk was minimal and everyone walked away happy.

The bigger concern is how this effecting his overall preparation. My guess is that his team will shut it down for a while and allow for the leg to recover before the trials. If they don’t then I think that your concern will become much more legitimate.

Thats the big deal, hes been running on it for weeks and it hasnt goteen worse but asked urself has it gotten better? Ben also had a very good physio and he still had hammy injuries. are you part of his camp since you know the risk was min?

No, I’m not part of his camp.

They clearly feel that it can be managed. There was no evidence that he was favoring it either. Only Wariner and maybe Ford know it’s actual level of discomfort. This is where Hart’s experience may have been of value. As I said, time will tell.

What I do know is that corporate sponsors are sometimes very pragmatic and sometimes do loose sight of the bigger picture.

Good night :smiley:

Speed is the based upon SE is built on a short to long training plan. Take Göhr and Koch, same top speed, but one developped 100m SE, the other 400m SE. That’s why Koch couldn’t match Göhr in the last 40m of the 100m races.

So what you are saying is that in a Short-to-Long program as they moved toward endurance, the specificity of the work done on this quality dictated success at a given distance. Is that correct? If so it makes sense. I can see this not being the case if endurance were being developed via a Long-to-Short program. Thoughts?

From the Los Angeles Times story on the meet:

After waiting until finishing his warmups before deciding to race, defending Olympic and world champion Jeremy Wariner won the 400 in 44.42, easily beating runner-up Tyler Christopher (44.71) of Canada.

Wariner hurt his left hamstring last week. “When I first arrived here I was trying to go day by day,” Wariner said. “On Thursday there was a 60% chance I would not run at all. I felt better on Friday.” Wariner called his start “timid” because he was testing the hamstring.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-track19-2008may19,0,7559436.story

If this is a hamstring that can be “managed,” Dilbert has to be in there somewhere…

Look on the bright side: Dilbert will cost less than Ford, who costs less than Hart…

If Jeremy doesn’t get to share the GL jackpot because he can’t stay healthy enough to compete in all the meets, Dilbert will become decidedly more expensive than Hart. Remember, he withdrew from Doha a week ago, and, yes, it was a 200, but it appears we now know why.

How much money are we talking about really? I hope JW’s not just being stingy. If he really thinks he can do as well without Hart that’s one thing but to be pinching pennies, especially this year :confused:

whenever anyone makes it to the top, there are tons of people out there telling them whoever is with them isnot good enough.

This is my conclusion since regarding the win-loss record during 1 decade of rivalry, Koch wins at indoor 50/60m, and Göhr wins at outdoors 100m.
Also, Koch’s indoor bests are 6.10 and 7.04 versus Göhr’s 6.11 and 7.07.

It is possible to evaluate their level of 100m specific endurance from their GDR indoor nationalships since they use to enter in both 60m and 100 yards (91.44m) in the same week-end.

year - 60m - 100y - diff
KOCH
1979 - 7.16 - 10.33 - 3.17
1980 - 7.13 - 10.33 - 3.20
1981 - 7.10 - 10.33 - 3.23
1985 - 7.04 - 10.25 - 3.21
average - 7.11 - 10.31 - 3.20 (9.8m/s)

GÖHR
1979 - 7.17 - 10.35 - 3.18
1980 - 7.10 - 10.29 - 3.19
1982 - 7.18 - 10.34 - 3.16
1983 - 7.09 - 10.29 - 3.20
1985 - 7.15 - 10.30 - 3.15
1987 - 7.11 - 10.28 - 3.17
average - 7.14 - 10.31 - 3.17 (9.9m/s)

As for February, Koch was better at 60m, they were equal at 100y, but Göhr had better last 30m (100m SE). However, these last 30m (31.44m exactly) are still poor for them, about 9.8-9.9m/s. Outdoors, Göhr continued the 100m SE work to the point she was the best at 100m races (she was now able to run the 60-90m section in 10.4m/s), while Koch was moving to 200m and 400m specific work, still maintaining her lead at 60m most of the times during 100m races.
The year Koch focused on short sprints (1983), hence in 100m SE due injury and limited time to devote to 400m work, she was able to get very close to Göhr at 100m, as she ran 10.83, just behind Göhr 10.81, both breaking the then-10.88 WR. Göhr won that race in the last meters.

Hope this illustrates the differences in speed endurances and how they progress through short to long training plans.

Yes. This makes it abundantly clear. Thanks.

I hesitated to answer again on the Wariner situation because this is a thread about Tyler Christopher.

What do I find interesting is how rapid and abundant people on this forum are in their criticism when nothing even close to bad has transpired. It’s like a group of people “Monday morning quaterbacking” the winning Super Bowl team.

So for those who hadn’t noticed Wariner won the race and walked away with no sign of any ill effects. Michael Ford probably had little to say on the matter. Remember that he is managed by a group of people, primarily Deon Minor, but MJ has significant influence as well. Are you calling him Dilbert? My guess is probably not.

And no, I have no inside info regarding Wariner’s condition, but neither does anyone else here to my knowledge. What happens from here on with his season will give us a picture of quality of the people who now surround him.

Anyway that’s my final word on the matter.