Just In: Sprinters Need Not Lift Weights

[nycjay01]

@Charlie_Francis

Well if Gatlin doesn’t want to train hard, what the fuck is he doing hanging around with Trevor Graham. Try one of those 9 x 90 sessions (in three sets of three) sometimes and see how much goofing off you’ll be doing. When I hear stupid know-nothing fucks explain away everything to good luck and genetics, i want to puke about as much as Trevor’s guys do after those sessions.
Come to think of it, try working out with Ben in his prime and see how easy it all was! A lot of people would turn up at the track to jump in with him (our group always did speed work separately) The inevitable result was a hamstring pull for them!

To sum it up- dip-shit statements like that are NEVER true at the top.

I just dont get why people still have these crazy thoughts on sprint training. I mean with all the info thats so readily available these days,you would think that they would at least back up idiotic claims.

[nycjay01]

@Charlie_Francis

Well if Gatlin doesn’t want to train hard, what the fuck is he doing hanging around with Trevor Graham. Try one of those 9 x 90 sessions (in three sets of three) sometimes and see how much goofing off you’ll be doing. When I hear stupid know-nothing fucks explain away everything to good luck and genetics, i want to puke about as much as Trevor’s guys do after those sessions.
Come to think of it, try working out with Ben in his prime and see how easy it all was! A lot of people would turn up at the track to jump in with him (our group always did speed work separately) The inevitable result was a hamstring pull for them!

To sum it up- dip-shit statements like that are NEVER true at the top.

I didnt think so either. I was being sarcastic. I know guys who train in NC and they said that hes a hard working MOFO… I just dont get why people are stilll inthe dark ages even though there is so much info on the subject these days.

[Charlie_Francis]

@epote

a bit irelevant, but did anyone notice that this

“You can’t overwhelm idiots with knowledge, but, sadly, the knowledgeable can be overwhelmed by idiots.”

is much more profane, and downright bearing more quote status than the one coming right after?

/suck up mode off

charlie:

what kevingG is saying is more of a game in prove theory and logic than a statement in training. He is merely indicating the “apeall to authority” logical falacy, nothing more. Basicaly the fact that you (being a relatively succesfull coatch from what others tell me:p) say so does not make a proposition true. Concequently the fact that an elite (or all elites) is training a certain way that does not make his training method corect or optimal. If you search canada you will find that all swans are white, does that mean there are no other collored swans in the world?

I know its moot but there are other means to prove that the training of the elites are optimal those being productive or deductive in nature in a axiom-theorem manner.

Not to put too fine a point on things:
what I tell you about the methods I’ve used does not create a universal theory (ie there is no proposition) BUT it does give you what I did in an given time about a given set of circumstances and a given set of athletes- and that much IS true.
What bothers me is the dismissal of facts by Andy-O and the insertion of new “facts” in their place to suit a theory (ie Montgomery and Gatlin)