Unless Bolt runs sub 4.3 40 fat who cares about the horse racing him? it’s whole different ball game than starting out of blocks (considering you know what u do) and racing the nfl guys. Ask Charlie, there is somewhere floating around the reality check.
What??? You lost me
Bumer, you misunderstood my post.
Chris, he’s saying that since 40 times don’t start with blocks, Bolt couldn’t hack it.
No offense to football fans but 40 yards must seem a silly distance for Bolt as it takes him twice the distance to reach top speed.
Chris1234
You state that - Setting a 40 wr would be a fuckin (what does fuckin word mean btw?) waste of time for Bolt. I don’t see him breaking 4.30 fat out of no blocks on the grass the way they do in the NFL unless he proved us all wrong . Hell no even need for that electronic bullshit, Bolt may get challenged by some an unknown right know right there and tape it on the video, what if Bolt loses? There will be no 2’nd try as you understand it
Cloude.here
I understood you - Olympians are always faster out of blocks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_pUa1CRUUQ
I know this isnt what it appears to be but it sheds light on the timing method used in the 40.
Who is chris1234? Fuckin is short for fucking. minus the g. He doesnt make his money on grass so why would he waste his time. Thats like saying barry bonds should play golf cause he can swing a bat so I know he can hit a golfball far:rolleyes:
Have you watched “the fucking short version” preview on “die hard” flick from the internet? Fucking hillarious!
Hey Christ6878 Bolt guy considered the fastest moving being from the A to B point horisontally. Bary Bonds vs Tiger Woods comparison is not fair. As been said there are lots of guys who will smoke Bolt’s skinny ass in 40 y on the grass out of no block horisontally.
We want to see you do it Bolt! Bolt! Bolt!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4lqrj_dwain-chambers-vs-kevin-levrone_shortfilms
Anyone see this before. Bodybuilder kevin levrone hand timed a 40 yard once and determined he was one of the fastest men in the world. Levrone challenged Maurice to a race but he didnt accept. Dwain chambers did though and so they raced a 60m, with a 40 split. Dwain ended up running a 6.6s.I don’t think they used blocks.
Yup syrus, seen that one before; considering what Levrone trained for, I think he did pretty well there.
Bumer, there are no football players who could beat Bolt (or be close to) to 40 yards out of blocks on a track. In Berlin at 40m (which I know isn’t 40y), Bolt was 0.06 ahead of Gay, 0.07 ahead of Powell and Thompson, and 0.11 ahead of Chambers (who set a EU record of 6.42 this year). These are some of the fastest starters in the world.
In Berlin, Bolt took 4.35 seconds to get to 40y from the time the gun went off. This is not comparable to any football 40 times due to timing method differences. Obviously subtracting his RT is a start (putting him at 4.20), but how much benefit does he get from not starting until the timing gate is broken?
The timing gate run in is a huge difference. Block clearance is up to .3s and you’re removing that from the equation. They time this way in bob sled try outs. You get a 1m lead in to the timing gates which you have to have one foot in the 1m area. My friend who tried out ran 6.64s for 60m using this system. And thats electric. So he thought he was in the shape of his life. He then ran a 7.2s FAT 60m time a couple of months later, which is off his current pb.
6.64+.3s for block clearance+.15s for reaction and a bit for that half meter lead in and the time makes sense.
Even though it’s pretty sad that so many people are ignorant to the specifics of timing methods and equipment use…I still find it funny to read some comments about football vs track sometimes.
I’ve googled NFL’s fastest guys, Hester(10.6) vs Powell, Chris Johnson(10.38) vs Gay, etc. It’s absolutely hilarious what I read on message boards discussing these things. “Hester is the fastest guy in the NFL”. Even though he’s not the fastest on his own team.
The truth is that with the timing methods used in track, Bolt, Powell, Green, Ben, wouldn’t be faster than the fastest NFL guys in the 40y. But obviously WE know that they are faster. I have an athlete who is a 20.4 - 20.7 range for 200m, and I timed him with a stopwatch and with a camera(dartfish) while he was running reps of 50m out of blocks. His en route time through 40y was never faster than 4.5. And i’m positive he’s faster than 99% of the guys in the NFL.
From my stats, the fastest 40y i’ve seen fro all the 9.7 or under guys was never under 4.30. That obviously includes, Greene, Powell, Ben, who were excellent starters.
Not to mention that the majority of the fastest guys in the NFL are rarely ever mentioned. Terrence Newman, Standford Routt, Santana Moss, just to name a few. And coincedently they all ran track.
If you get a small lead into the timing gate, then not only are you saving block clearance, but you’re also entering the run at t=0 with forward speed already. This extra speed at the start carries through the whole run, decreasing your time some more.
From the video I seen Levrone vs Chambers, Levrone has had horrible start, he sprang off the blocks and while still in the air, Chambers was two steps ahead. It’s not Ben Johnson.
Shiny.here. I want to see Bolt on the grass out of no blocks against the fastest NFL guy or regular block who would of had balls to challenge the so called fastest man.
Tremble Why stop watches or fully automatic timing. Right now right there a couple of witnesses with the regular camera and the hero goes down…
Bolt is much much faster than all these men on a track. Why would that change on “grass”? It’s not like they’re racing in street shoes out there.
4.18 seconds for 40 yards. Decide for yourselves what timing was used. It was recorded in Europe. Guess who? Dwain Chambers. When he was banned from track, he tried out for a European gridiron team.
And what happened to Dwain Chambers when he was in the Berlin world championship final?
He got smoked. He was not leading the race at 40 or even 30 yards or even 20 yards. Usain Bolt was ahead of Dwain at 40 yards.
Those football fans who get giddy on 40 yard dash times of footall players… Get reall if u think they can hang with sub-10 second sprinters. The olympic sprinters are faster from 10 meters onwards, some are faster from zero meters onwards, so get real.
Every single pro football player has access to a running track where some of their off-season work outs are held. Anytime some one is fast, there coach times them out of curiosity on the actuall track. so that they can ‘compare’.
And then they time themselves over 100 meters. And then they get embarrased becuase they weren’t quite as fast as they thought they were.
We should ask Bolt. Why he doesn’t set the wr in 40 and settle all the speculation down.
I’'m not sure what did Tremble mean by quoting - From my stats, the fastest 40y i’ve seen fro all the 9.7 or under guys was never under 4.30. That obviously includes, Greene, Powell, Ben, who were excellent starters.
I have a very strong feeling Bolt will not be that explosive nor fast on grass, out of no blocks. Actually I don’t know anything about the NFL , but as far as I know the best in there run 40 sub 4.3 fat. Bolt should show us what he’s got testing himself under the conditions those guys do. From a bit different perspective Bolt may be far from being called the fastest in the world…
Wait a minute
Snowy.here said - In Berlin, Bolt took 4.35 seconds to get to 40y from the time the gun went off
Now you say Chambers runs 4.18
Timing method different?
In football the time starts when the fucker passes some timing gate? Sorry my ignorance how accurate is this shit all? Why the difference, I’m confused. So 4.29 translates to 4.59 the way they do on the track?
There is no speculation except for you. Everyone on the planet knows bolt has superhuman speed. Its just a few idiots out there that come out the wood work to say “I can beat bolt to the 10” Not knowing that blot is now one of the fastest starters on the planet. We all know the outcome, you just want to hate. lol
Majority of the time NFl has a bunch of coaches with stop watches doing the timing. Very inaccurate